On Tue, 2012-10-30 at 16:27 -0400, John Stewart wrote:
> Jeremy;
> 
> > an endmill holder of course!!! thats what they are for. 
> 
> If you mean the ones with the screws on the side for weldon-shanked end 
> mills, they have other issues.
> 
> By definition, the holes in these holders are larger than the end mill shank. 
> (otherwise you'd never get the end mill in) 
> 
> The screw acts as a pivot point. So, you essentially have an end mill flexing 
> in the holder; leading to wear, and if the end mill is not inserted properly, 
> it *will* walk out as far as the screw will allow, so if you do use these, of 
> course you are going to pull the end mill out by hand as you tighten the 
> screw. The wear will appear as oval on the end of the holder, but it'll be 
> tapered. Think about it - you are shaking that end mill shaft a few thousand 
> times per minute, and there IS play in there.
> 
> Ok, ok. I gave away my clarkson auto lock chuck because screwed end end mills 
> are not available, while plain shank end mills are a dime a dozen. (that's an 
>  expression, not a pricing structure!)
> 
> For the last 2 decades I have only used top-quality ER collets. My ER-25 set 
> are Regio-Fix (Swiss) with Schaubin (sp?) holder. My 16 and 40 sets were from 
> Maritool - probably paid too much, but as they all "just work", with no known 
> issues, so I'm sold.
> 
> Just make sure that they are clean (I use a bit of aluminum "flashing" 
> rescued from some house-repair contractors to clean the grooves of the 
> collets).
> 
> Anyway, I'm no expert, but the above may be something to think about. Will 
> *you* experience wear in these screwed-shank holders? I've absolutely no 
> idea, just keep it in the back of your mind that this can and does happen.
> 
> Back to your regularly scheduled programme… ;-)
> 
> 
> John Alexander Stewart.

A lot of the stuff I used to get from Boeing surplus had a whistle notch
ground in the shank. While they can  some loose they don't do it very
often. 

I regularly use ER20 collets , carefully torquing the nut to 75 ft-lb.
They don't seem to come loose even on the Mazak. 

Dave
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