On Sunday 11 November 2012 11:11:07 Kent A. Reed did opine:

> On 11/11/2012 1:14 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 11 November 2012 01:12:07 Jon Elson did opine:
> >> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Jason Burton
> >> <[email protected]>
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>>> The archive shows them as marked as spam.
> >> 
> >> If your sig line contains a URL, or there is one included in the
> >> message body to reference
> >> an external web page, that will often trigger the "marked as spam"
> >> condition.  (At
> >> least, those are the rules Yahoo groups seems to use.)
> >> 
> >> Jon
> > 
> > Which is an odd statement considering that the _only_ links in the sig
> > or footer of Jasons msgs, were put there by this mail server. See
> > below for the example.
> 
> True, Gene, but Jon was just citing Yahoo groups as an example (besides,
> the sourceforge server checks the email *before* it adds the crap that
> allows us to use these lists free of charge). We don't know the details
> of the sourceforge list server.
> 
> Jason - you are using gmail.com as your mail host just as I am. You
> should know that many spammers use gmail.com and many other mail
> handlers aren't very happy with it. Case in point, I'm looking at the
> headers of your original message and I see the following (inserted by
> sourceforge; this is just the first few lines)
> 
> > X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net.
> > 
> >     See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
> >     -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for
> >     sender-domain
> >     0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail
> >     provider (lathebuilder[at]gmail.com)
> 
> More than once, I've had temporary trouble communicating with this list
> from my gmail account. It was much worse with my old ISP-provided
> account. It got blackballed which is why I had to switch to gmail.
> 
> If your messages are being rejected by the list server, you should be
> receiving explanatory responses in your mailbox as I have.
> 
> Regards,
> Kent
> 
I have a gmail account (who doesn't) but have largely migrated off it, 
mainly because there is no echo to indicate that my messages even get to a 
list, so it, unless someone replies, always looks as if my message was 
dumped.  I want that echo to prove to me the messages were delivered TO the 
list by getting that posting back as a receipt. So I use gmail very little 
anymore.  And I have never used my IPS's email server as their max pw 
length is 5 characters.  'scuse me!  Bunch of arrogant nincompoops IMO. I 
have a longer, but still probably quickly crackable pw at my former place 
of employment, an account that will be active for me till I pass.  Its on 
big iron as lots of video is moved thru it, so my text traffic, verbose as 
it is at times, doesn't bother that qmail server a bit.

Cheers, Gene
-- 
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so to speak.
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