Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 15:25:31 -0400 From: "Kent A. Reed" 
<kentallanr...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency problem To: 
"Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> 
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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 3/25/2013 9:56 AM, Bj?rn wrote:
>> <snipping off previous discussion> now i have tested: boot with isolcpu(big 
>> improvement in general latency but still spikes)
>>     turn of smi, (improvement in general latency but still spikes)
>> 'idle=poll' and 'nohlt'(little or no effect)
>>
>> acpi = off and api=off (little or no effect)
>>
>> For the moment i have been running the system for 1,5 hour and have - 
>> servothread interval 999655 and max jitter 4495 ns - base thread interval 
>> 32069 max jitter 7190.
>>
>> witch i am very happy with, but if i run for several hours i still get 
>> spikes up to 50000 and above.
>> i suspect Michael are right, the problem is related toidle/powersave states.
>>
>> I have no settings in bios to turn of ACPI
>> my bios is: MWNT10N.86A.0083.2011.0524.1600
>> is this the same as others are running? and do you have option to turn off 
>> ACPI from bios?
> Bj?rn:
>
> I don't have an Intel D525MW in my stable of motherboards but I do have
> an ASUS AT5NM10-I whose numbers I posted last year to the table of
> latency-test results in the Wiki. Your "pre-spike" numbers are
> reasonably consistent with the numbers I got. The "best" numbers I
> posted were obtained with hyperthreading turned off in the BIOS and
> isolcpus=1 set in the boot parameters. Nothing heroic. I did my tests
> long before list discussions brought out the importance of other
> parameter settings like idle=poll. In recent shortterm tests, I also
> have not seen dramatic improvements manipulating these parameters.
>
> Testing this ASUS board, I haven't seen the kinds of spikes you are
> experiencing. (Just for the record, I was testing LinuxCNC over 10.04LTS
> with the RTAI kernel).
>
> I'm curious to know what all is attached to your motherboard, especially
> anything attached via USB. I once had a motherboard that started
> misbehaving when I switched from a PS/2 mouse to a USB mouse and a
> number of us have seen the simple act of plugging in a USB thumbdrive
> cause bursts in latency numbers. Is it possible you have a peripheral
> interface/device that is waking up on the same time scale as the
> occurrence of your spikes?
>
> My system guy never failed to ask if the computer were plugged to a live
> outlet as his first step in diagnosing problems. Obviously your computer
> is plugged in but how are the power supply and the AC mains? Adequate,
> stable, clean?
>
> Regards,
> Kent
>
>
I bought the power supply together with the D525MW board. here are a 
link - 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160721043666?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
it says 60w but i don't know the quality of it. I will test another one 
when i get it in a week.

I to have seen the problem regarding USB and latency on my mill and 
plasma table. I told the guys in the shop to transfer files from USB 
thumbdrive to desktop and remove USB thumbdrive
before running Linuxcnc

at first i started out with a wireless mouse and keypad with a USB 
dongle, but replaced it with USB when the spikes appeared. i have now 
tested using a ps2 mouse, i do not have a ps2 keyboard so that's still 
USB. but i have tried to disconnect and connect it while the 
latency-test where running and no spikes i left it out and no other USB 
devices connected, let the test run for 5-6 hours but still spikes at 
50000 - 60000.

just a tought, what about SATA and SSD disk could that have some 
influence on the latency?

But anyway i still think i have some powersave funktion running. I 
noticed that the screen was black when i come back to the office, witch 
i havent seen before.
I think i have to go back to check my bios version to see if there are 
an uppgrade or alternative.

Regards Bjørn

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