quick threading video..  (yes - not the correct cutter - and the exit 
move is a bit shallow..  but shows the spindle sync is right on...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERMizV-yy8U

sam

On 07/11/2013 02:56 PM, sam sokolik wrote:
> Seems to run nice at 40ipm
>
> http://electronicsam.com/images/emco/EMCOThreading.JPG
>
> video soon...
>
>
> On 7/9/2013 11:34 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
>> ok - some cool news I think.  So - with the switch on the interface
>> board set to off (non step/dir mode)  the control signals are 4 phase
>> drive.  (seems to be unipolar).  pins 2 through 5 control one axis - 6
>> through 9 control the other.  I hacked a hal file to setup stepgen to
>> output 4 phase (patterns 5 through 10).
>>
>> First tried pattern 9 (Unipolar Half Step) because the scale was setup
>> for that.
>> the performance was the same.  20ipm max and would probably have to back
>> that off...
>>
>> Second was pattern 10 (Bipolar Half Step)  I know - not likely - and it
>> wasn't.  Didn't like it.
>>
>> Third was pattern 5 (Unipolar Full Step)  I halved the axis scales also.
>> similar performance..  20ipm max.  (and sound so far was pretty crappy)
>>
>> fourth was pattern 6 (Unipolar Full Step (two windings on))
>> Holy crap.  That sounds nice.  maxed out at 30ipm and didn't try any
>> faster.  Full stepping is .00054ish per step.  Workable for sure.
>>
>> That is what the original control/software maxed out at.  I will try
>> faster when I get a chance.
>>
>> That is totally usable with linuxcnc - no mods to the control.  I need
>> to hook up the index and 100ppr and try some threading!
>>
>> One thing to try is - I think I can put the interface board back into
>> step/dir and full step.  I don't know what pattern it does though.
>>
>> sam (happy dancing..)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/8/2013 7:13 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
>>> We got a few of these lathes from a local school.  they are cute little
>>> cnc lathes.
>>> The technology is pretty old though. The steppers are 72 steps per rev.
>>>
>>> I found this
>>> http://www.maxton.com/ebay/emco/EMCO%20Compact%205PC%20Conversion%20to%20Mach3.pdf
>>>
>>> which talks about converting to mach.  They remove the octal latch and
>>> jump through it.
>>> I wanted to see if I could get linuxcnc to drive the board without
>>> hacking the latch out.
>>>
>>> this is what I have found/figured out
>>>
>>> I think this is correct..  (this is with switch 1 on the interface board
>>> set to
>>> 'on' which puts the board into step/dir)
>>>
>>> x step pin 2
>>> x dir pin 3
>>> z step pin 4
>>> z dir pin 5
>>> index pin 12
>>> estop pin 11
>>> 100 ppr sensor pin 10
>>> 74ls374 enable pin 14
>>> 74ls374 clock pin 1
>>>
>>> I setup linuxcnc to send a pulse at every base period for the 'clock'
>>> that latched the outputs of the chip. (thanks Jeff E for the idea) this
>>> is using the
>>> 'reset' option of the printer port that allows for a cycle within each
>>> base period
>>> the same feature that makes 'double step' work.  This allows me to
>>> 'latch' the
>>> 74ls374 each base period with the current step/dir pattern.  It seems to
>>> work
>>>
>>> Now it took me a bit of tinkering to figure out that I didn't read the
>>> above article
>>> well enough to notice that you needed to set a switch to put the emco
>>> interface
>>> board into step/dir mode.  During this time I was flipping bits on the
>>> printer port
>>> to try to figure out why it wasn't working.  I think by default the
>>> interface is setup
>>> as phase drive.  (4 phases per stepper)  as I think I was flipping all 8
>>> data bits on
>>> the printer port and was getting stepper clunking.
>>>
>>> Well - the performace of these drives/steppers are pretty poor. (assuming
>>> I have the timing right - and I didn't get too much time to play with
>>> it.)  In the
>>> above article they talk about around 20ipm is about max.  That is what I was
>>> seeing - plus there is a weird interaction when you run both axis at once.
>>> (they get quite a bit noisier for some reason).  Now it could be that I
>>> don't quite
>>> have the timing correct - like maybe the step/dir needs to be inverted or
>>> or something - I will play with it more.
>>>
>>> I would also like to switch it back to non-step/dir mode.  (phase drive
>>> maybe?)
>>> because there might be a reason the original software used it.. (better
>>> performance?)  plus I think I have the original software and would like
>>> to try
>>> it out also.  (need to setup a pure dos machine to test)
>>>
>>> lathe
>>> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/emco/emcoclose.JPG
>>> interface/drive
>>> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/emco/interfaceanddrive.JPG
>>>
>>> sam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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