On Tuesday 24 September 2013 06:45:22 Mark Wendt did opine: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote: > > On Monday 23 September 2013 08:49:33 Mark Wendt did opine: > > > Nah, he needs one a these: > > > > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/161110870354?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksi > > > d=p3 984.m1423.l2649 > > > > But thats a Tek, its waaaayy old, and according to the link, a box of > > parts. He needs something that Just Works, not a service engineers > > worst nightmare before he even gets back to thinking about his > > problem. > > Then how about this one: > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/271275574595?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3 > 984.m1423.l2649
Thats a lot better, and its a good price too. But I'd need a cart, one capable of climbing stairs, or negotiating the hill of my back yard getting to the shop. How old is it? > You realize that the above was written tongue-in-cheek... ;-) > > > I have long time experience with 2 different Hitachi scopes. You turn > > them on, and they work. Those Tek things were great when A, they > > were new, and B, in an R&D lab. > > > > Tek today is a far cry from the Tek that impressed the hell out of me > > in the early 60's when they had a lifetime warranty. But now they > > clean out the parts crib 30 milliseconds after the federally mandated > > 5 years support period has passed and beyond that 5 years there is NO > > support. > > The beauty of those mainframe scopes is they are repairable. Even when the last one of that model to come off the line is 10 years old? To repair, one must have access to the inhouse, custom made parts. My last interface with Tek (they are AKA Grass Valley Group and make big production house sized video switchers with effects) was when I needed one of their custom IC's on a plate, basically a high speed op-amp. They had one left, $1700, take it or leave it & had no idea if it was new or used or even good. So I went looking for a video op-amp usable at those supply voltages & talked National Semi out of 2 samples. It worked, but was enough faster than the Tek gizmo that you could see the color shift as the fader was moved. I should have ordered a stick of them & replaced all of them, which would have put it all back in color phase. But putting it in was a bitch, and really should had had a pcb made as its leads weren't quite long enough to reach the pcb holes where the Tek part was soldered in. If I would have had my mill cutting pcb's then, I would have. IIRC I would have needed 144 of them. The switcher was a 24 input, 6 bus model. Bigger control panel than the 1701-D. The better op-amp? $1.13 in 100's. > I'm up to > a half dozen, in lab mainframe scopes to TM500 and TM5000 plugin > scopes. And they all "Just Work." ;-) > > > Heck, for this job, one of the DS-2O1's would work, but he would have > > a far harder time learning to use it with its limited controls that > > do everything depending on the mode its in, and its bandwidth is such > > that it would miss step pulses, confusing him. He isn't familiar > > with a "scope" at all I suspect, so he needs something where every > > knob does exactly what you expect once he learns what to expect. The > > phrase Just Works keeps coming to mind. > > Mark > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------ October Webinars: Code for Performance > Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. > Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most > from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and > register > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60133471&iu=/4140/ostg.cl > ktrk _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) But they went to MARS around 1953!! A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60133471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users