On Friday 06 December 2013 13:18:03 Billy Huddleston did opine:

> Burning wood, and etching metal are two different things.  30W lasers
> have a hard time etching Aluminum without a special paste applied to
> the part.  I don't think a 2W laser diode will do much to a PCB except
> maybe blacken it a bit.
> 
> Thanks, Billy

Well good, that heads me off at the pass then, thank you.

What I had in mind was to pulse it, maintaining the 2 watt average, but 
banging it with 200 watts for .5% of the time, 1 u-sec on, 100 off.  The 
burners themselves do that for the duration of the pit being burned AIUI, 
but not quite that great a ratio since they can be on for about 90% of the 
time under certain encodings for several hundred microseconds.  First 
purchase of course is a set of those narrowband sunglasses to match the 
diode used.  I haven't scrapped any blue-rays yet, they are either not yet 
in wide use in recorders, or a much longer lasting technology.  Fancy way 
of saying I don't have one in the "junque" pile, yet.
;-)

So, ways and means to make a quick change spindle that cranks up a 100k rev 
dental tool may be in the next path explored. 2500 revs max with this one 
means I can't run more than about 2 ipm if I want clean cutting, at 5 I 
have to drop it on a sheet of 600 grit wet-r-dry, wet, and sand-cut the 
burrs off before I can turn it over to do the back side else they hold the 
board at random heights at random locations on the board, not very 
conducive to nice, just thru the copper etching.  The bearings in this 
spindle are now fairly old, and take a beating from a hammer on the draw 
bolt head every time I change tools, so I am slightly amazed they haven't 
went tits up already, but asking for even 25 grand seems like a quick way 
to burn these up.

I have a vision of something that I can interchange in the current quill 
mount by unclamping it, pulling the handle rack shaft out and pulling the 
existing quill, gearcase and motor out, which is something in the 10 cm 
diameter range.  Also with the drive motor on top, but stolen from an old 
dremel perhaps.  Either direct drive, or perhaps a gear up using pulleys 
and o-rings in the area above the head casting.  But so far its in the what 
if stage. :)

> On 12/06/2013 12:55 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings;
> > 
> > On reading one article on the net about ripping up old dvd writers and
> > using the nominally 2 watt laser diode to do some wood burning etc
> > with them, it has occurred to me that there could possibly be a use
> > for those diodes in 'etching' pcb's.  The article showed one mounted
> > in a gantry machine, burning wood, from a quite decent distance away
> > from the wood, perhaps an inch or 2.5cm above the surface of the
> > wood.  The backblast didn't quite reach back up to the laser to dirty
> > its lenses.
> > 
> > So my question is, to someone who may have tried/done this, is can a 1
> > ounce layer of copper be burned away rapidly enough so as not to leave
> > a burned, conductive path where the copper was?
> > 
> > I ask because I have 3 or 4 old dvd writers that no longer write a
> > usable disk, although the written area can be seen on the throwaway
> > disk.  Pack rat that I am, I haven't binned them yet.
> > 
> > Cheers, Gene


Cheers, Gene
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