On Friday 06 December 2013 14:22:22 Florian Rist did opine:

> Yes proper eye protection is important, but also at just 2 W and a diode
> from a DVD burner. The power density that can be reached at the retina
> is surprisingly high as soon as you deal with culminated (parallel)
> beams. So even 2 W of continuous wave beam can cause permanent damage
> especially if the light is in the visible range of the spectrum. The
> 10600 nm fro a CO2 laser are less dangerous, as they will 'only' burn
> the corona and not reach the retina.
> 
> cu
> Flo

Hence the cataract warnings that seem to surround the long IR CO2 models.  
Unforch I do have some already.

Cheers, Gene
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