On Friday 13 December 2013 09:07:06 Gregg Eshelman did opine:

> On 12/12/2013 3:26 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> > 2013/12/11 Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com>
> > 
> >> It sounds like you are greatly simplifying the machine.   An MG set
> >> (motor generator set) is a very old technology to create DC power.
> >> That was probably obsolete when it was installed.
> >> 
> >> Yes indeed, I really don't understand why a 70's machine would use an
> > 
> > motor generator to feed a DC motor.
> 
> For the early variable speed DC motor drives, Monarch and some other
> lathe manufacturers used a 3 phase AC motor driving a DC generator to
> power the DC motor.
> 
> There have been more than a few people hook those up to rotary phase
> converters.
> 
> Single phase AC motor driving a three phase AC generator, powering the
> three phase AC motor, driving a DC generator, powering the DC motor.

Such complexity in big iron is crazy, and crazy expensive too, if your hp 
requirements are reasonable.  Empire electric, someplace in WI, can sell 
you a 0-10 volt analog input control for a dc motor, runs on the 127 volt 
powerline, and can deliver 25 amps if your circuit breakers can, all for 
about $150.  Needs about 2.5" of height above a nominally 6x6" open frame 
plate, which is grounded.  Hide it anyplace handy.

That will power a honking big 4 or 5 hp treadmill motor (see ebay) cleanly, 
cool & absolutely silently.  All in ultrsonically switched hexfets, so 
essentially zero heat.  These motors aren't "dressed for the party" but 
appear to have only one failure mechanism, worn out brushes.  They are 
quite good sized, so that will take quite a while.

Laying on the table turning 10k or more revs, you can't hear anything but 
the fan pulling cooling air.

I have one running a 1.5hp treadmill motor with a 9 amp circuit breaker 
that has only been tripped a couple times, I had miss wired one of my ice 
cube relays.

Cheers, Gene
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