Gene: First place I look for switching supplies is Marlin P. Jones, 
www.mpja.com . Good luck. 

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1. Amazon playing tricks? (Gene Heskett) 
2. Re: Amazon playing tricks? (Jon Elson) 
3. Re: Amazon playing tricks? (Ken Strauss) 
4. Re: Amazon playing tricks? (TJoseph Powderly) 
5. Re: Amazon playing tricks? (Gene Heskett) 
6. Re: Amazon playing tricks? (Gene Heskett) 
7. Upgrade to 2.7 Mesa 5i25/7i77 firmware (Mark Johnsen) 


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Message: 1 
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 12:00:16 -0400 
From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> 
Subject: [Emc-users] Amazon playing tricks? 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
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Hi All; 

I still have a minute to say good morning. :) 
That order from amazon I was expecting today? I just got a cancel 
notice, product unavailable. 

But when I go back to look for a substitute, the same guy has them listed 
twice yet, 3 on one listing and 4 on another, for slightly different 
prices. 

That will also cancel my amazon prime but all I wanted was the free 
shipping, and I'd bet a case of suds that is the real reason. 

So I go to fleabay, and their search engine sends me 4 damned pages of 12 
volt supplies for a search term of "24 volt switching power supply". 
All at 2-5x the amazon prices. 

So, since I do have a F-F db25 gender changer although its 3 inches long 
and a connector destroyer if it gets bumped, I guess I demolish a box of 
braking stuff I built for the lathe & only used a couple months before I 
discovered Jon's pwm servo amp, which simplicates the heck out of that 
project. I'm pretty sure there's a transformer in it that will do the 
job with a cap input filter... 

Damn I hate being lied to by amazon. But the box I have started to make 
does have room for a linear home-made supply if the transformer is the 
one I think it is. 

Cheers, Gene Heskett 
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: 
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." 
-Ed Howdershelt (Author) 
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> 



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Message: 2 
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2015 12:15:18 -0500 
From: Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Amazon playing tricks? 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
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On 10/03/2015 11:00 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: 
> So I go to fleabay, and their search engine sends me 4 damned pages of 12 
> volt supplies for a search term of "24 volt switching power supply". 
> All at 2-5x the amazon prices. 
For small power supplies, MP Jones used to be the best. 
They are still quite good. You can also check Jameco. 

Jon 



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Message: 3 
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 16:13:25 -0400 
From: "Ken Strauss" <ken.stra...@sympatico.ca> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Amazon playing tricks? 
To: "'Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\)'" 
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Message-ID: <016601d0fe17$f6e74940$e4b5dbc0$@sympatico.ca> 

Did you put quotation marks around the "24 volt"? If it is entered as just 
words with no quotes you also get everything with "24" in the description. 
That includes "24 watt", "240 volt", etc. I just did it ebay.ca with the 
quotes and got 25 hits all of which are appropriate. 

> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@wdtv.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 12:00 PM 
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
> Subject: [Emc-users] Amazon playing tricks? 
> 
> Hi All; 
> 
> I still have a minute to say good morning. :) That order from amazon I was 
> expecting today? I just got a cancel notice, product unavailable. 
> 
> But when I go back to look for a substitute, the same guy has them listed 
twice 
> yet, 3 on one listing and 4 on another, for slightly different prices. 
> 
> That will also cancel my amazon prime but all I wanted was the free 
shipping, 
> and I'd bet a case of suds that is the real reason. 
> 
> So I go to fleabay, and their search engine sends me 4 damned pages of 12 
volt 
> supplies for a search term of "24 volt switching power supply". 
> All at 2-5x the amazon prices. 
> 
> So, since I do have a F-F db25 gender changer although its 3 inches long 
and a 
> connector destroyer if it gets bumped, I guess I demolish a box of braking 
stuff 
> I built for the lathe & only used a couple months before I discovered 
Jon's 
> pwm servo amp, which simplicates the heck out of that project. I'm pretty 
sure 
> there's a transformer in it that will do the job with a cap input 
filter... 
> 
> Damn I hate being lied to by amazon. But the box I have started to make 
does 
> have room for a linear home-made supply if the transformer is the one I 
think 
> it is. 
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett 
> -- 
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: 
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." 
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 
> Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> 
> 
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Message: 4 
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2015 15:32:47 -0500 
From: TJoseph Powderly <tjt...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Amazon playing tricks? 
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On 10/03/2015 12:15 PM, Jon Elson wrote: 
> On 10/03/2015 11:00 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: 
>> So I go to fleabay, and their search engine sends me 4 damned pages of 12 
>> volt supplies for a search term of "24 volt switching power supply". 
>> All at 2-5x the amazon prices. 
> For small power supplies, MP Jones used to be the best. 
> They are still quite good. You can also check Jameco. 
> 
> Jon 
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++MPJA when he first opened years agao, he had HUDs ( single eye 
displays precursor of 'google glass' ) for 49$! I grabbed 2 and will 
finally get to play wif them in retirement. Yay Marlin! 
TomP tjtr33 



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Message: 5 
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 16:38:16 -0400 
From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Amazon playing tricks? 
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
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On Saturday 03 October 2015 13:15:18 Jon Elson wrote: 

> On 10/03/2015 11:00 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: 
> > So I go to fleabay, and their search engine sends me 4 damned pages 
> > of 12 volt supplies for a search term of "24 volt switching power 
> > supply". All at 2-5x the amazon prices. 
> 
> For small power supplies, MP Jones used to be the best. 
> They are still quite good. You can also check Jameco. 
> 
> Jon 

I've already cobbled up a linear using the old control transformer for a 
bunch of braking relays I used to have on the lathe. And one of those 
relays, will control a bucket max sucking up the wooden swarf. The jig 
motor reversing relay works, and about /12 the box is assembled, but my 
back & legs have petered out for a while, plus there's several items 
under clamping pressure, sitting in puddles of clear RTV. And that 
needs to cure so I can handle it a bit less tenderly. 

That braking assembly also will yield 2 more hexfet's, switching some 
dpdt ice cubes with a pair of 10 amp contacts, one of which will now 
control a shop vac "bucket max", which will be sucking up most of the 
dust I'll be making, but will run it thru a home-made cyclone separator, 
the parts to make it being pulled from a bin or 5 at Lowes if I feel 
like going over this evening after I see about rustling up some grub for 
us. Its already coded into the hal file and the code works for the two 
functions I've tied to the axis left panels mist and flood checkboxes, 
or for the usual M7-8-9 codes. 

All I need is the back to finish it, but with both functions, maybe 
Sunday/Monday for a smoke test. 

And amazingly, another item I had ordered from Amazon, 2 more roundover 
bits, just reached out and grabbed my hand when I stuck it in the 
mailbox just now. 

Thanks Jon. 

Cheers, Gene Heskett 
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: 
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." 
-Ed Howdershelt (Author) 
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> 



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Message: 6 
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 16:43:42 -0400 
From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Amazon playing tricks? 
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
Message-ID: <201510031643.42367.ghesk...@wdtv.com> 
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 

On Saturday 03 October 2015 16:13:25 Ken Strauss wrote: 

> Did you put quotation marks around the "24 volt"? If it is entered as 
> just words with no quotes you also get everything with "24" in the 
> description. That includes "24 watt", "240 volt", etc. I just did it 
> ebay.ca with the quotes and got 25 hits all of which are appropriate. 
> 
Humm, don't you just love it when every site with a search engine uses 
different rules for their regex? I wasn't aware of that, thank you very 
much Ken. 

But its esentially moot now, I've pieced out an old braking controller 
for the lathe, and have enough parts to get the job done, including 
controlling a vacuum cleaner with the axis "flood" checkbox. 

I still have to make some of it, my back has petered out for a few hours 
ATM. 

Cheers, Gene Heskett 
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: 
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." 
-Ed Howdershelt (Author) 
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> 



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Message: 7 
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 01:47:52 -0700 
From: Mark Johnsen <m...@ijohnsen.com> 
Subject: [Emc-users] Upgrade to 2.7 Mesa 5i25/7i77 firmware 
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
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Hi, 

My upgrade to 2.7 is "still in process." I have a communication error 
from the 5i25 to the sserial 7i77 (see below for error from dmesg). I 
can start linuxcnc 2.7, make a jog, and after about 5-10 seconds I get 
a slew of communication errors and the sserial card is shut down. 

I had 5i25 firmware 33 (1.33) and needed to update that to 34 or 
higher. I bought the 5i25/7i77 combo and wasn't quite sure which bit 
file to use. I chose mesaflash --device 5I25 --write 
5i25_7i77x2.bit. In the dmesg output it shows this: 
[ 63.884444] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart Serial Firmware Version 43 

So that seems to be at least at the correct version now. Correct 
bitfile, not so sure? 

Also, I think I updated the firmware for the 7i77 okay, here's the 
command line response: 
mill@dlinux:~/linuxcnc/MESA/Update_7i77_FIRMWARE/utils/linuxcnc$ ./update7i77 
move 7I77 W4 and W12 to right hand positions 
cycle 7I77 field power and 5V power and hit return 

updating 7I77 field I/O 
. 
updating 7i77 analog out 
. 
now move 7I77 W4 and W12 to the left hand positiona 
and cycle field power and 5V power 
mill@dlinux:~/linuxcnc/MESA/Update_7i77_FIRMWARE/utils/linuxcnc$ 
Broadcast message from root@dlinux (Sun Oct 4 00:29:04 2015): 

The first time I did that, I hadn't recycled field power and it didn't work. 

The full dmesg file can be found here: 
http://www.ijohnsen.com/dmesg_errors_20151004.txt 

Here's the tail end of the dmesg file w/ the communication errors: 
[ 87.825896] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0 
error = (13 
) Communication error 
[ 87.825904] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0 
error = (4) 
Extra character 
[ 87.826893] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0 
error = (13 
) Communication error 
[ 87.826900] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0 
error = (4) 
Extra character 
[ 87.827892] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0 
error = (13 
) Communication error 
[ 87.827899] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0 
error = (4) 
Extra character 
[ 87.828896] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0 
error = (13 
) Communication error 
[ 87.828903] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0 
error = (4) 
Extra character 
[ 87.829894] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0 
error = (13 
) Communication error 
[ 87.829901] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0 
error = (4) 
Extra character 
[ 87.830895] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0 
error = (13 
) Communication error 
[ 87.830902] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0 
error = (4) 
Extra character 
[ 87.831899] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart Serial Comms Error: There have 
been more th 
an 1 errors in 10 thread executions 
at least 200 times. See other error messages 

for details. 
[ 87.831908] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: ***Smart Serial Port 0 will be stopped*** 


HAL FILE Modifications 
I don't think there would be an issue w/ the Hal file mods, I 
commented out the lines per the instructions here: 
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/updating-linuxcnc.html 
I had originally used pncconf to get the base Hal files and then 
edited them. I commented out the pet_watchdog line and loadrt 
probe_parport. I didn't add anything else (there's no loading of a 
parport function) and also checked and didn't find anything for 
parport_pc in /etc/modprobe.d/linuxcnc.conf. 

Not really sure what I did wrong:-( 
Mark 



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