On Sunday 06 December 2015 22:55:27 Ken Strauss wrote:

> I assume that you mean a Surgistor(TM). You'll find them for very high
> prices on eBay (the one currently listed is $25!). Google shows
> several places that claim to have them.
>
Sound like they renamed it so they could charge antique prices for it. 
They were just a couple bucks back in 1985.

I'll google the net for the new name.

Thanks Ken.

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 10:26 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: [Emc-users] Poor mans soft turnon
> >
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > Before tv's lost their crt's, there was a component in the power
> > inlet
>
> circuit
>
> > that had a very high negative temp coefficient, which was used to
> > create a high voltage drop when it was cold, which in turn forced
> > the first few
>
> seconds
>
> > of its power draw after being turned on, thru the degaussing coils
> > wrapped around the crt in order to demagnetise it.
> >
> > That voltage drop heated it, and it got hot enough to get down to
> > just a
>
> couple
>
> > of ohms, which was not enough to overcome the MOV in series with the
>
> coils.
>
> > This also allowed the tv itself to be soft-started, and it worked so
> > well
>
> that it
>
> > was often the major part failure in the tv for the first 3 or 4
> > years.
> >
> > About 3 or 4 of those, wired in parallel, would also serve as an
> > inrush
>
> limiter
>
> > when I turn on the power supply for my G0704 mill.  But the parts
> > houses
>
> we
>
> > had locally have all evaporated.  I just checked a couple surplus
> > places
>
> without
>
> > finding any of those critters.
> >
> > Does anyone have a suggestion as to where a small handfull of these
> > could
>
> be
>
> > sourced?  Usually bare, they look like a graphite quarter coin with
> > a lead
>
> wire
>
> > soldered to the middle of a silver plated dot in the middle of each
> > face. Usually slightly thicker than a 'merican quarter.
> >
> > When I was setting up the mill, and building that supply, I had
> > wired up a
>
> 4
>
> > plex on the wall behind it, putting it by itself on a 20 amp
> > breaker.
>
> Turning it
>
> > on, trips the 20 instantly as the motor supply has a huge amount of
> > microfarads, probably in excess of 80,000 uf, mainly because that
> > was the
>
> size
>
> > of the caps I could source, NOS, locally by the fine old art of
> > horse
>
> trading.
>
> > So, while it draws less than 3 amps with the spindle motor off, and
> > could
>
> reach
>
> > 18 if the motor was in a LR state, but it takes a 30 amp breaker to
>
> withstand
>
> > the in-rush. If I could find some of these critters, building them
> > into
>
> that motor
>
> > supply, I could put the 20 amp breaker back in and it wouldn't be
> > quite so
>
> ill
>
> > eagle if an inspector looked it over.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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