On 1/4/2016 3:40 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

> You said headstock gears?  Backgears for spindle speed changing? 5/16"
> wide for a lathe swinging a 13" chuck?  In a job shop, that sounds lime
> a recipe to keep LeBlond busy making replacements. That almost sounds
> like a job for a new motor & inverter drive, if a 5HP version can be
> sourced.  Or did you investigate that, finding it would be even more
> sheckles by the time that gearbox was stripped and bypassed to make it
> strong enough?

Yup. Gears in the headstock only 5/16" thick, except for the final drive 
to the spindle for high and low range. *Those* helical gears are nigh 
indestructible. The set screw for the high speed gear on the spindle was 
loose, allowing it to slide to the left and chew up the fancy nuts on 
the right end of the two shafts in the gearbox output drive. Luckily the 
OD of that gear cleared the diameter of the shafts enough to leave the 
remains of those nuts as thin threaded sleeves.

LeBlond made the standard/heavy Regal line and the lighter weight 
"trainer" line in the "Roundhead" style. For most of their lathes in the 
WW2 and earlier years they'd design one, then scale it down to make a 
smaller lathe, then scale that one down for a yet smaller model. Thus 
each size of every model of LeBlond before they went to the square 
cornered designs is nearly 100% parts unique to that model/size. It's 
things like this I discovered *after* buying a 17x72" WW2 trainer with 
missing parts. I lucked out, found a guy trying to sell a shorter 17" 
trainer on eBay with a completely shot bed. Took a while to convince him 
the only way he'd ever shift it was to part it out, and give me dibs on 
the pieces I needed. ;) I got it going and sold it to a guy looking for 
a lathe just like it to work on Caterpillar axles.

The 17" trainer got downsized for the 15" and the 15" to the 13". A 13" 
LeBlond Regal roundhead trainer needs a delicate hand at the controls 
and absolutely *never* so much as think about touching any lever on the 
headstock until the lathe is brought to a complete stop.

There's so much empty space inside the headstock, and the gears have to 
shift a long ways... if LeBlond had given things half a thought I bet 
they could easily have fit it with 1/2" or thicker gears. 'Course there 
was wartime steel rationing and costs. Making as many lathes as possible 
from the metal LeBlond was allotted, and getting them to schools to 
train machinists likely had a hand in this model having such thin gears.

I'm only the 3rd owner of this lathe made in 1934. First was the Idaho 
State University in Pocatello. I bought it from a guy who used (and 
likely abused) this lathe as an ISU student in the 70's.

Judging from the tool marks and poor treatment obvious inside the 
headstock, it's a fair bet the reverse gears had been torn up a few 
times. And of course they're 14 pitch and the entire worldwide gear 
industry decided shortly after WW2 that nobody was going to use 14 pitch 
again, ever.

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