The obvious answer is user have to read manual, it is jog wheel not a run wheel!
If wheel lack break or other support for feed back then user run faster than speed limit the wheel could slip in software. For a control loop there is a similar phenomenon called wind up. Nicklas Karlsson On Wed, 18 May 2016 08:30:37 -0700 Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: > This is a general problem that applies not just to CNC machines. What > to do if the human interface allows a human to tell a machine to do > something it can't do? In this case the interface allows you to > command the axis to move faster then it can. The best design is to > prevent this. You'd need to have some kind of force feedback, a > torque or brake applied to the command wheel to prevent you from > turning it to fast. Cheaper solution is a big red LED that lights up > as you approach 90% of the maximum speed. Or in place of the LED a > vibrator motor to shake the wheel. > > In any case, I think it is always a design error if an interface > accepts commands that cannot be executed and gives no user feedback. > In that case the interface is broken by a design error. Best case is > that it is logically impossible to over drive the machine with the > interface. Maybe an example of this is that a control wheel can > always be rotated at any speed but the position of the wheel is > indicated by an LCD numeric display above the wheel that shows where > the actual position the machine is really at. (some microwave timers > and radio tuner dials work this way > A more general idea is the concept of "correctness". There are at > least two levels > 1) given correct input the computer produces correct output and > 2) in addition to #1 above, given incorrect input the computer does > not produce incorrect output. > Level #1 is usually easy to implement but for most real-world systems > you need #2 even if it is much harder to implement. > > I think what you have is a level 1 correct controller. > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Todd Zuercher > <zuerc...@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > If the problem is that your able to turn the handwheel fast enough to > > exceed the maximum velocity for the axis and build up a store of pulses. > > Perhaps you should consider limiting the step size generated by the > > handwheel to one small enough that it is not possible to easily over run > > the max velocity of the axis. I have seen similar behavior even in large > > expensive commercial machines with Fanuc controls. Granted you have to > > turn the wheel really fast, faster than you can sustain for a long enough > > period to build up a significant overrun but it is detectable. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Forum Deswysen" <forum.deswy...@gmail.com> > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:22:53 AM > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc and Arduino > > > > I have a XHC - HB04 Wireless MPG during LinuxCNC HAL module. > > If I turn the crank too fast I have a time delay ??? > > > > It's dangerous > > > > 2016-05-17 11:21 GMT+02:00 Forum Deswysen <forum.deswy...@gmail.com>: > > > >> Hi Andy, > >> > >> With a python script and the serial port : > >> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flajZMff28U > >> > >> https://ckcnc.wordpress.com/basic-arduino-emc-howto/python-emc-module/ > >> > >> With arduino, today I 'm testing my order for tool change turret. > >> It works fine > >> > >> > >> @+ > >> > >> Pierre > >> > >> 2016-05-16 23:48 GMT+02:00 andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>: > >> > >>> On 16 May 2016 at 15:03, Forum Deswysen <forum.deswy...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > The reaction speed is the same as a button on a Parport entry? > >>> > >>> That rather depends on how the Arduino connects to LinuxCNC, but the > >>> answer is likely to be that it won't be anywhere near as fast. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> atp > >>> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > >>> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > >>> lunatics." > >>> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916 > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. 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