OK, I know nothing about gear hobbing, but have seen that youtube video of the 
little hobber, what kind of work would need to be done to build a cnc version 
of such a machine? 

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1. Re: Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ? (Ed) 
2. Re: Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ? 
(Stuart Stevenson) 
3. Re: G33.1 overtravel revisited. (Gene Heskett) 
4. Re: G33.1 overtravel revisited. (Gene Heskett) 
5. Re: G33.1 overtravel revisited. (John Thornton) 
6. Re: G33.1 overtravel revisited. (Gene Heskett) 


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Message: 1 
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 14:55:43 -0500 
From: Ed <ate...@mwt.net> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 
2016 ? 
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On 09/28/2016 05:36 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: 
> On 8/22/2016 11:55 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: 
>> On 08/22/2016 10:35 AM, Ed wrote: 
>>> I haven't been paying attention to this. Is this the correct date? 
>> The plan is: 
>> 
>> Monday October 17 through Sunday October 23 
>> Helix Machine, 3434 West Harry, Wichita, Kansas 
>> 
>> It's going to be a rocking nerdy good time. 
> Sounds great! Is there any sort of tentative schedule? 
> 
> I'm trying to decide whether to come down Fri/Sat or Sat/Sun. 
> 
Is there a place to park a 24 foot camper on the grounds? If not is 
there a good place to camp close by? 

We would be there Thursday late or Friday early till Sunday afternoon. 

It looks like there are two of us coming from SW Wisconsin. Is there any 
others from the area going? 

I have a couple of projects that I will need some instruction on. 

One is an Fanuc AC servo setup with a Pico setup. The other is to setup 
a follower system; encoder on a spindle and a servo drive at a specific 
ratio. EG; hobbing on a horizontal mill. 

Ed. 




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Message: 2 
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 15:28:22 -0500 
From: Stuart Stevenson <stus...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 
2016 ? 
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There is room for a camper. 

On Sep 29, 2016 3:25 PM, "Ed" <ate...@mwt.net> wrote: 

> On 09/28/2016 05:36 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: 
> > On 8/22/2016 11:55 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: 
> >> On 08/22/2016 10:35 AM, Ed wrote: 
> >>> I haven't been paying attention to this. Is this the correct date? 
> >> The plan is: 
> >> 
> >> Monday October 17 through Sunday October 23 
> >> Helix Machine, 3434 West Harry, Wichita, Kansas 
> >> 
> >> It's going to be a rocking nerdy good time. 
> > Sounds great! Is there any sort of tentative schedule? 
> > 
> > I'm trying to decide whether to come down Fri/Sat or Sat/Sun. 
> > 
> Is there a place to park a 24 foot camper on the grounds? If not is 
> there a good place to camp close by? 
> 
> We would be there Thursday late or Friday early till Sunday afternoon. 
> 
> It looks like there are two of us coming from SW Wisconsin. Is there any 
> others from the area going? 
> 
> I have a couple of projects that I will need some instruction on. 
> 
> One is an Fanuc AC servo setup with a Pico setup. The other is to setup 
> a follower system; encoder on a spindle and a servo drive at a specific 
> ratio. EG; hobbing on a horizontal mill. 
> 
> Ed. 
> 
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Message: 3 
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:00:20 -0400 
From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 overtravel revisited. 
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On Thursday 29 September 2016 12:15:01 Gene Heskett wrote: 

> Greetings all; 
> 
> Sitting here waiting for the coffee to kick in, and lamenting the 
> difficulty in doing math in hal. 
> 
> That bit of hal stuff I can watch with a halmeter needs some math to 
> translate the encoder counts of the overshoot into actual distance it 
> represents. Then somehow, dynamically as the g33.1 is running, diddle 
> the z distance its using as the turn around point so the first one, 
> cutting air, would establish the z offset for the next peck, doing 
> this on a peck by peck basis. A wrapper for the G33.1 could do that 
> before starting the next peck. I think that overshoot value is still 
> valid at the point where its back to doing its incrementing of the 
> depth it hands g33.1 for the next peck. 
> 
> So, how can I store the output of a hal module to memory?, 
> 
> Such that the gcode can access it #4990 style and use it to adjust the 
> z point its working with. IOW I need to be able to make a memory 
> location out of something one would normally be looked at with a 
> halmeter. With that, I could do the math in gcode to make a g33.1 
> peck cycle wrapper self correct for the overshoot. 
> 
> Here is what I have now: just incomplete enough to be confusing I'm 
> sure. ======================== 
> # Now, lets see if we can track the G33.1 turnaround overtravel 
> # first, make a sum2 a sub2 
> setp sum2.ovrtrvl.gain0 -1.0000 
> 
> # then net the sample holds but sample needs s32, not float so use 
> count net ovrtrvl1 hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.count 
> sample.dirchg.in sample.spndlchg.in net spindle-ccw => 
> sample.dirchg.hold 
> net spindle-reverse abs.encdir.is-negative 
> sample.spndlchg.hold 
> 
> # and calc the overtravel from S32? 
> net ovrtrvl2 sample.dirchg.out 
> S32_float_cmd.in net ovrtrvl3 S32_float_cmd.out 
> sum2.ovrtrvl.in0 net ovrtrvl4 
> sample.spndlchg.out S32_float_spndl.in net ovrtrvl5 
> S32_float_spndl.out sum2.ovrtrvl.in1 
> 
> # the hal pin sample.ovrtrvl.out should be shown with a hal__meter 
> ============================== 
> And its this last sample.ovrtrvl.out that I want to put in a memory 
> location. 
> 
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett 

And I was running into a get out of here deadline to get the toy over to 
toy for some recall work, and forgot to say thank you for any ideas that 
could be used. 

Thank you. 

Cheers, Gene Heskett 
-- 
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." 
-Ed Howdershelt (Author) 
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Message: 4 
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:11:37 -0400 
From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 overtravel revisited. 
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On Thursday 29 September 2016 17:00:20 Gene Heskett wrote: 

This question may have the genesis of a clue in the Integrators Manual, 
unforch the copy available on the web page, development branch dated 
about 2 weeks ago, is not in English. Is there any way to fix that? 

Thanks. 

Cheers, Gene Heskett 
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: 
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." 
-Ed Howdershelt (Author) 
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Message: 5 
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:26:26 -0500 
From: John Thornton <j...@gnipsel.com> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 overtravel revisited. 
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http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/ 

On 9/29/2016 4:11 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: 
> On Thursday 29 September 2016 17:00:20 Gene Heskett wrote: 
> 
> This question may have the genesis of a clue in the Integrators Manual, 
> unforch the copy available on the web page, development branch dated 
> about 2 weeks ago, is not in English. Is there any way to fix that? 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett 




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Message: 6 
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 19:02:26 -0400 
From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 overtravel revisited. 
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
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On Thursday 29 September 2016 17:26:26 John Thornton wrote: 

> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/ 
> 
Thanks John. Skimming thru that, the most promising path I see might be 
in cobbling up something useing sampler, hal_sampler, streamer and 
hal_streamer, if the output could somehow be dumped, not to a file, but 
to a #<_named> memory variable, which could then be massaged in gcode 
and used as an -z[#<_z_arg> + #<_derived_offset>. in the G33.1 
invocation. Has anyone actually done that, that someone here is aware 
of? 

> On 9/29/2016 4:11 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: 
> > On Thursday 29 September 2016 17:00:20 Gene Heskett wrote: 
> > 
> > This question may have the genesis of a clue in the Integrators 
> > Manual, unforch the copy available on the web page, development 
> > branch dated about 2 weeks ago, is not in English. Is there any way 
> > to fix that? 
> > 
> > Thanks. 
> > 
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett 
> 
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." 
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