On Friday 05 May 2017 09:25:01 Charles Steinkuehler wrote:

> On 5/5/2017 7:56 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> > On 5 May 2017 at 13:41, Charles Steinkuehler 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >> So does the armhf build run in Raspian or are you using qemu or
> >> something?  AFAIK, standard Debian armhf code won't run on the RPi
> >> because Raspbian uses a different ABI (due to the not-quite full
> >> armhf compatible CPU on the original RPi).
> >
> > It might be worth considering that Gene's experience seems to be
> > that LinuxCNC on the Pi runs less than flawlessly.
>
> Indeed.  I've only just started playing with the RPi3 and have already
> hit some issues.  I was hoping the GPU would be usable, but it looks
> like there are still problems.  I think the BBB (or an SoC+FPGA) is
> probably a better choice if you don't need a native GUI, and if you
> _do_ want a GUI a low-end x86 box is likely a much better choice.
>
> I've ordered one of these x86 SBCs to play with and see if I can get
> it talking to Mesa hardware via SPI:
>
> http://up-shop.org/up-boards/2-up-board-2gb-16-gb-emmc-memory.html

That looks like a raspi killer, but whats an eMMC memory, because I sure 
don't see a socket for a micro-sd card.
>
> ...if it works out, it may be a good midway point between the ARM
> based SBCs and a full x86 machine.

I agree, except for the system memory.

Soldered to the board flash memory bothers me, a lot.  If it didn't, I 
would have used my card to put some postage on its even better equipt 
4Gb dram and 32Gb of e-MMC. I have 2 of the original D525MW boards, one 
of them is still software stepping a 4 axis micro-mill. Not fast, but 
fast enough to get the job done.

> > https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi
> >
> > Seems to suggest that armhf works on Pi >= 2.0
> >
> > buildbot "sim" builds run with realtime on preempt-rt kernels.
>
> Yeah, I should be able to use the armhf builds if I'm running stock
> Debian (which works on the RPi 2 & 3).  I started with Raspbian to see
> what the "out-of-the-box" experience is like, and figure it's unlikely
> I can tweak Debian to work better than Raspbian.  I'm unclear what
> Gene's running, but I'm guessing it's Debian armhf rather than
> Raspbian.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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