Interesting John. What ThinkPad do you have? I have had a couple of the 128gb SSDs in our T410s fail, some after less than a year. I have been replacing them with Samsung or Kingston SSDs. I have not had problems with either. The original were Intel, which I would think would be decent, but I guess not. Other then the drive issues the T410s have been great machines. They each are used by different people for various purposes and run a smattering of OSs (Win7, Win10, Debian, Ubuntu), all still going strong. I have a second SSD in the bay of my T410 with Debian 9, I have Win7 on the original (yet to fail) SSD (it may never fail since Win does not get much use!).
I also have one each of the T41, T42, T43. The 43 runs Debian 8 and I use it daily. Other two are a little tired. Cheers, Kurt On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 4:07 PM, John Bald <robotwiz...@att.net> wrote: > I've had two 128g SSD's fail on my thinkpad laptop. The original failed > after about 3 years and they sent me a replacement under warranty. It > failed after about 2 years. When I looked at replacements at newegg, got a > kid on live chat that likes to build gaming PC's. He said to avoid some of > the cheapest SSD's and recommended a Samsung and a few others for > longevity. The Samsung was reasonable at the time, but I opted to go with a > 1tb regular HD instead. You would think lenovo would use a better quality > ssd on a higher end business machine. The 1tb is still sitting in the box > and I've been using a livecd. > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > > On October 28, 2017 7:23:48 AM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote: > > On Saturday 28 October 2017 03:55:32 Chris Albertson wrote: >> >> Forgot to say... >>> >>> It yu want to get maximum life from an SSD. Yo need to enable its >>> built-in "TRIM" function. What this does is load balance the writing >>> over the entirety of the SSD so all the sectors (pages) get written >>> to. Older version of Linux don't do this automatically.. Yu would >>> have to have a cron script run periodically. >>> >>> The file system on a hard drive tries too keep data near the outside >>> edge of the drive as that is there the tangental velocity of a >>> spinning disk is greatest and it also ties to keep the data in a >>> compact area (de-fragmente) For an SSD you want exactly the >>> opposite of this. Yu want to keep the data scattered randomly all >>> over the drive. It will be faster and last longer if data is sparsely >>> distributed. TRIM does this. >>> >>> I assume this is an option to be put in /etc/fstab? >> >>> >>> The keyword 'trim' is not mentioned in the man pages for fstab, mount, or >> tune2fs. on these wheezy systems. Where can I find this?, and how is it >> applied? I found something in man hdparm, but its labeled as EXTREMELY >> DANGEROUS, DO NOT USE!!! So I await further instructions. >> >> Thanks Chris. >> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Chris Albertson >>> >>> <albertson.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Building a hard drive takes some very specialized trooling and >>> > expensive factory so you don't see new hard drive companies >>> > sprouting up. But an SSD is just a standard PCB with chips soldered >>> > on inside a plastic box. You can almost make them in your garage >>> > so there are lots of companies getting into the because the cost of >>> > entry is very low. But they buy the same chips others use. All >>> > that is different is who solders them to the board. >>> > >>> > I think the Silicon Per SSD is the lowest price SSD that still has >>> > resopnable specs. Looked at them >>> > >>> > BTW these SSDs that have the same physical shape as a hard drive as >>> > just a transitional technology. They are good for upgrades old >>> > computers. But with new computers they eliminate the SATA-III >>> > interface and connect the FLASH chip directly to the PCIe bus. SATA >>> > has become a huge bottleneck >>> > >>> > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >> Greetings; >>> >> >>> >> New stuff report. >>> >> >>> >> I just installed one of the SP 60GB drives in the G0704's Dell >>> >> computer. I have everything copied across, theoretically I should >>> >> be able to remove the 2 TB thats been in it for around 2 years as I >>> >> am needing a bigger drive for amanda, whose 1TB drive is at about >>> >> 87%. >>> >> >>> >> DF says 18% so 60GB should do ok for a while. >>> >> >>> >> Speed comparison with hdparm -tT: >>> >> >>> >> 2TB rotating drive, supposedly sata-III capable >>> >> dev/sda6: >>> >> Timing cached reads: 2456 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1228.06 MB/sec >>> >> Timing buffered disk reads: 292 MB in 3.01 seconds = 96.95 >>> >> MB/sec >>> >> >>> >> 60GB SSD; >>> >> dev/sdb3: >>> >> Timing cached reads: 2484 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1242.54 MB/sec >>> >> Timing buffered disk reads: 642 MB in 3.00 seconds = 213.65 >>> >> MB/sec >>> >> >>> >> While its rated sata-III, or 6GB/sec, that old Dell Optiplex 745 >>> >> mobo obviously isn't. But its still pleasantly faster. Not too >>> >> shabby for a $33 drive. :) I think I'll put the 2nd one on the >>> >> rock64 as its lone sata socket is a sata-III capable socket. But >>> >> maybe its time to round up a an expander and get acquainted with >>> >> how they work. >>> >> >>> >> Moving the 2TB drive in here for amanda, will give me room to add >>> >> the machine I use to program mesa cards, and the rock64 to its >>> >> nightly backup schedule. >>> >> >>> >> These are Silicon Power SSD drives, never heard of them before. >>> >> Anybody else here have any experience with their stuff? >>> >> >>> >> Cheers, Gene Heskett >>> >> -- >>> >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: >>> >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." >>> >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author) >>> >> Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>----------- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the >>> >> world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! >>> >> http://sdm.link/slashdot >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Emc-users mailing list >>> >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > Chris Albertson >>> > Redondo Beach, California >>> >> >> >> Cheers, Gene Heskett >> -- >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. 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