On Monday 02 April 2018 11:53:41 Marius Liebenberg wrote:

> Gene it is sitting fully submerged and that groove is on the top half
> of the bearing so it should have a lot of oil on the bearing surface.

How much oil is in the pocket that submerges it? A heavy weight thick oil 
seems like its not advantageous at all. If it can circulate to dissipate 
the heat, seems all that would be needed. Drain & refill with clean 
stuff occasionally, anytime any cloudiness shows up in it.  Ought to 
outlast us, certainly me. :)

> I dont need more than 1000 or 1500 RPM for the plastics.

That should do nicely then. Coolant assumed on the plastics of course. :)

> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Gene Heskett" <ghesk...@shentel.net>
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Sent: 2018-04-02 17:33:21
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] What RPM
>
> >On Monday 02 April 2018 10:23:33 Marius Liebenberg wrote:
> >>  Hi
> >>  I have had this piece of machine in the store for a long time. I
> >>think
> >>  it was used to decant fishing line to the smaller plastic reels.
> >>  I have a need for a small dedicated lathe that will onpy cut soft
> >>  materials like plastic and aluminium occasionally.
> >>  The spindle in the picture is what is currently fitted to the
> >> machine and I would like to refurbish and use it. The question I
> >> have is what RPM will I be able to run the spindle seeing that it
> >> uses these brass bearings?
> >
> >I am seeing an unusual lube distribution system in those bushings. Is
> >there a lube pump and reservoir associated? Something that would
> > assure a continuous flow of lube into the end grooves and thence
> > lengthwise thru the groove I can see running lengthwise in the left
> > half of each? With such a system running, and delivering a 1/2 cup
> > of clean 0 to 5w oil a minute, I could see it spinning 30k revs. The
> > rev limit would be how much heat the viscosity of the oil used was
> > caused to be generated. Monitor with an IR thermometer. Personally,
> > the oil will start to fail at around 300F, so seeing 150F on the
> > bushing holder would make me slow it down.
> >
> >If nothing of that sort of circulating lubricant exists, and its
> > equipt with flip cap oilers, then some 30-50w oil to try and hold
> > the hydrodynamic film, refreshed hourly might allow 2500 revs,
> > depending on the load and any imbalance that might exist. Because
> > the hydrodynamic forces are rpm dependent, there is of course a
> > minimum speed that should
> >be maintained when its carrying any lateral load.
> >
> >I get the impression that what little evidence of wear I see was
> > caused by this minimum speed being violated, probably at startup and
> > shutdown times.  The small cross-section of the shaft will allow
> > some flexure under load which may have overpowered the
> > hydrodynamics, allowing some metal to metal contact, and that might
> > have worn the bushings a bit bell-mouthed. With sharp tooling and
> > copious coolant, it should do plastics and alu at decent cutting
> > speeds just fine. Add the forced lube
> >and 10k+ rpms should be doable. Watch it with an IR thermometer, and
> >let
> >it tell you when it needs forced lube.
> >
> >>  -----------------------------
> >>  Regards / Groete
> >>
> >>  Marius D. Liebenberg
> >>  +27 82 698 3251
> >>  +27 12 743 6064
> >
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> >Cheers, Gene Heskett
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