On Thursday 09 August 2018 23:31:07 Greg Bentzinger via Emc-users wrote:

> Greg - To Gene - and list
>
>
> If the RPi can use SPI over a 250mm length cable at rated speed then
> it is a great option.
>
Doubtfull

> No? How about a 150mm cable?
Maybe.
>
> If the signal can't get off the host PCB and to the target PCB
> reliably then the whole issue is a non starter moot point.

As I explained in the previous post, the pi is mounted upside down, with 
a teeny fan under it.

This puts the pi's interface connector to the mesa 7i90 on the same side 
as the 7i90 might be mounted, removes the need for a pin order 
correcting 180 degree twist in the cable, allowing a very short cable 
with a total signal path length of not more than 2"/50mm, and includes 
the 40 to 26 adaptor/spi terminator that Jon Elson drew up and is 
available from OSHPark at around a 10 dollar bill from 3 of them, bare, 
needs 3 "chip" resistors of 120 ohms. I have made a 150mm cable work, 
but its more error prone than the shorter version, which seems to be 
bulletproof.

> Maybe if there was an off the shelf adapter PCB to rig a hat sandwich.
> For 90% of users PCB level mods are beyond what they signed on for.

What mods are you talking about? Granted, the ultra short cable I'm 
useing requires familiarity with a soldering iron, but I've had an iron 
in one hand and a scope probe in the other for a good 65 years now. I 
can make more of those, but I'll grant its tedious work.

> SPI is faster than needed which is nice to have extra available free
> time in the loop.

According to a "halcmd show threads" and given the move to a slow thread 
for all the human interface stuffs, my pi is almost collecting 
unemployment.

> But MACH 3, other than smooth stepper users was almost all para port.
> LCNC proved it could drive parallel ports just fine. Higher level
> controls Like Pico Systems and Mesa ECP/EPP based FPGA cards have
> proven that an ECP/EPP connection is plenty effective speed wise.

Never tried a smoothstepper, its well above my pay grade, designed to 
solve a windows problem linux doesn't have. I do not have a windows 
machine on the premises. That also explains why I've never tried MACH, 
any version.
>
> For my mill retrofit I went with a small pile of Mesa cards starting
> with a 5i25/7i77 with several additional SSerial cards added to the
> mix (mega overkill, and probably not really needed)

;-)

> I still have a 7i43 I bought way back, and I have a lathe conversion
> that has been on a back burner for a few years. I was thinking of
> driving the 7i43 with a new/old stock DM510 I have had on the shelf
> NIB long enough that any warranty has long expired. Sadly the DM510 is
> actually less powerful than the RPi, only thing in the DM510 favor is
> I can stuff it with 4gb ram.
>
> I have renewed my interest in the Pi because I'm looking at some
> simple applications which using the Pi as the front end driving an
> Arduino with GRBL is plenty. One application is a powered feed with
> auto reset for my horizontal bandsaw, a second axis could be used to
> auto feed the stock for the next cut using a vise clamped/unclamped
> sensor switch to inhibit/resume. Another RPi + Arduino GRBL is a stand
> alone programmable 4th axis indexer for manual milling - plus having
> connectors that would allow bypassing the Pi/GRBL and driving the
> stepper (with encoder feedback) from LCNC.
>
> Another project that is just on the wish list at this point is a 5
> axis tool grinder, but it might become 8-9 axis if I include
> programmable form wheel dressing. (bring Whiskey and Asprin)

Probably not in that order.

> Currently all conversions are on hold as I am trying to make space to
> shoehorn in the machinery I purchased from my Uncles Estate. I have a
> Okuma LK 350mm lathe, Bridgeport, another horizontal bandsaw and a
> Harig 6x18 Surface grinder. Been so much rain the soil is too soft for
> the forklifts to unload. So delivery keeps getting pushed back.
> Thankfully I'm not backlogged currently because after the machines are
> in, then I have to go back to the old site and remove the wiring and
> phase converter and install the outlets at my shop.
>
> Greg
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