Interesting! Is there support for isochronous transfers at both ends? Do
both ends support host/target roles? Can you configure both ends for
arbitrary VID/PID?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Albertson [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 12:34 PM
> To: Greg Bentzinger; Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pi with a side of SPI
>
> If you are trying to get data from a Pi to an Arduino at a reasonably fast
> rate.  Use USB.   The Arduino has built-in USB as does the PI.  USB is
> great because it is a balanced, differential signal.  It is way-faster
then
> you need for this purpose.    It is also very easy to use from the
software
> in both Arduino and Pi.   The Arduino software sees the USB cable as a
> serial port and the Pi can see it the same way
>
> If you are worried about packet delay and unpredictable latency that look
> into using USB's  isochronous transfer mode.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:32 PM Greg Bentzinger via Emc-users <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Greg - To Gene - and list
> >
> >
> > If the RPi can use SPI over a 250mm length cable at rated speed then it
is
> > a great option.
> >
> > No? How about a 150mm cable?
> >
> > If the signal can't get off the host PCB and to the target PCB reliably
> > then the whole issue is a non starter moot point.
> >
> > Maybe if there was an off the shelf adapter PCB to rig a hat sandwich.
For
> > 90% of users PCB level mods are beyond what they signed on for.
> >
> > SPI is faster than needed which is nice to have extra available free
time
> > in the loop.
> >
> > But MACH 3, other than smooth stepper users was almost all para port.
LCNC
> > proved it could drive parallel ports just fine. Higher level controls
Like
> > Pico Systems and Mesa ECP/EPP based FPGA cards have proven that an
> ECP/EPP
> > connection is plenty effective speed wise.
> >
> >
> > For my mill retrofit I went with a small pile of Mesa cards starting
with
> > a 5i25/7i77 with several additional SSerial cards added to the mix (mega
> > overkill, and probably not really needed)
> >
> > I still have a 7i43 I bought way back, and I have a lathe conversion
that
> > has been on a back burner for a few years. I was thinking of driving the
> > 7i43 with a new/old stock DM510 I have had on the shelf NIB long enough
> > that any warranty has long expired. Sadly the DM510 is actually less
> > powerful than the RPi, only thing in the DM510 favor is I can stuff it
with
> > 4gb ram.
> >
> > I have renewed my interest in the Pi because I'm looking at some simple
> > applications which using the Pi as the front end driving an Arduino with
> > GRBL is plenty. One application is a powered feed with auto reset for my
> > horizontal bandsaw, a second axis could be used to auto feed the stock
for
> > the next cut using a vise clamped/unclamped sensor switch to
> > inhibit/resume. Another RPi + Arduino GRBL is a stand alone programmable
> > 4th axis indexer for manual milling - plus having connectors that would
> > allow bypassing the Pi/GRBL and driving the stepper (with encoder
feedback)
> > from LCNC.
> >
> > Another project that is just on the wish list at this point is a 5 axis
> > tool grinder, but it might become 8-9 axis if I include programmable
form
> > wheel dressing. (bring Whiskey and Asprin)
> >
> > Currently all conversions are on hold as I am trying to make space to
> > shoehorn in the machinery I purchased from my Uncles Estate. I have a
> Okuma
> > LK 350mm lathe, Bridgeport, another horizontal bandsaw and a Harig 6x18
> > Surface grinder. Been so much rain the soil is too soft for the
forklifts
> > to unload. So delivery keeps getting pushed back. Thankfully I'm not
> > backlogged currently because after the machines are in, then I have to
go
> > back to the old site and remove the wiring and phase converter and
install
> > the outlets at my shop.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> >
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