I use estop type 4...

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Sample_HAL_And_ClassicLadder

These examples use classic ladder - although I think there is a hal
component that does something similar

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/estop_latch.9.html

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 7:35 AM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:

> On Sunday 21 July 2019 07:08:52 andrew beck wrote:
>
> > Hi guys
> >
> > I have got my cnc mill control panel working ok now just have some
> > questions about the best and proper way to implement the safety E stop
> > circuit and initial power on of the cnc machine
> >
> > I did some searching of course, but thought I would ask here and see
> > what the latest and best way is.  searching on the forum, some of the
> > info was a little dated.  so if anyone has any advice I would most
> > appreciate it.  I saw on Youtube what samco(skunkworks)  (I think his
> > name is chris Radek) has done.  And this is pretty much what I want i
> > think.
> >
> > I think this should happen when the E stop is pushed.
> >
> > Cut control power to all servos and main spindle VFD.
>
> I am probably a poor one to advise since I have not a separate E-Stop
> on any of my machines, depending on the f1 and f2 keys to do it all,
> which also still leaves me subject who owns the keyboard focus.
>
> >  (I think I may need to just send a E stop signal to the VFD as it
> > doesn't have control power that I can cut.)  It seems a big extreme to
> > cut main power and possible damage the vfd with loose high voltages
> > etc.
>
> I use the F1 key to enable power and this includes the vfd by way of the
> usual 40 amp 400 volt SSR's which are easily controlled. The F2 key
> enables motion.
>
> In this way you have an onscreen tally as the the machines state.
>
> > It should tell linuxcnc that the E stop is pushed.
> > I need to set up a latching relay somehow to make sure the E stop
> > doesn't turn back on until I turn it on within linuxcnc.
> >
> > Servo Power on setup.
> >
> > I want a Button I can push which enables all the servo drives( there
> > is a Servo on pin on the servo drives)
> This can be done in the .hal file by enableing the servo drives from the
> status of the F1 key latch.
> > and then also enable the vfd
> Same here, fire the SSR's from the same signal.
> >
> > however I need to do that.  This is separate to the E stop.  Currently
> > I am only using step and direction control and I am wondering how hard
> > it will be to tie in the encoder signals to linux cnc with another
> > mesa card.  otherwise when i push the E stop I will have to re home
> > the machine.
>
> I have not tried to do that, you will have lost your home if the power is
> cut. I use steppers and with the drivers still enabled by F1, the stop
> distance is rarely more than 1 count at working speed. But can if in a
> rapid move at the time of the stop take several steps which the feeback
> encoder will miss, so you should rehome.  Servo's are another story, and
> should return to the null point when re-enabled.
>
> Here, I consider the F2 key as an E-stop as it stops motion as fast as it
> can, while leaving power on everything.
> Leaving power on the servo's, it seems to me would give a faster stop
> than killing power with its slow decay to zero.
>
> I don't think it would be too hard to rig a big red button to be the equ
> of pressing the F2 key. I made progress on getting more spare inputs,
> and am considering something like a doorbell button I can slap. But I
> can't find such a button without a light bulb across the contacts. You
> would have to cut the light bulb out and remove it, otherwise the switch
> is closed forever to a bob input pin.  One could supply that pin with
> enough pullup power to light the bulb, but most doorbell are 24 volt
> circuits, so an si diode would be needed to protect the bob's input.
>
> So I'm not "kosher" but unless lcnc doesn't have keyboard focus, it works
> for me, and the diffs are minimal. I'd have a bigger problem figuring
> out where to put the switch so its in a consistent location so muscle
> memory could be depended on once you got used to it.
>
> Believe me, there is nothing more frustrating that recognizing the sound
> of a 15 hp water pump thats suddenly single phased, and your hand is
> headed to the off button, but is still 18" from it when the lights go
> out because the 1200 amp/phase building breaker has tripped like a 12
> gauge, followed a few  milliseconds later by the realization this fix is
> going to need around $125,000 and at least two unscheduled quorums on
> the state legislature called. One to authorize the purchase, and when
> its been built and ready to ship, write the check.
>
> Yeah, broadcast power klystrons are that expensive.  Thats why we don't
> use them anymore.
>
> > anyway please sing out with any feedback you have and
> > ideas.  I would love to get some ideas here from those who have done
> > this all before.
> >
> > I am using a mesa 5i25 7i76 combo.
>
> Good combo, I'm using it twice myself.
>
> > And I have all sorts of contactors etc.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Andrew
> >
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