On Thursday 09 January 2020 21:08:27 R C wrote:

> On 1/9/20 5:41 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 09 January 2020 19:13:56 R C wrote:
> >> if you use USB connected drives on a Pi, and also the network,
> >> you're switching
> >>
> >> between eth/wifi and USB "A LOT" (it uses the same
> >> hardware/chipset). If you power the
> >
> > No wifi, its disabled.
>
> But are you using ethernet,  the wired connection?
>
Yes, for my inhouse net.  And its my understanding that usb stuff and all 
the other do no longer share common hdwe.

> >> drives through USB that is not a good thing. For modest amounts of
> >> data I just use a/the
> >
> > I have a 5 amp supply, and these adapters have no provision for
> > external power.  However, one should never forget that that, and a
> > couple bucks will get you a fresh cuppa most anyplace but Starbucks.
> > ;-)
>
> It's not about the power availability really,  the issue is it
> switching back and forth  between USB/network  in an ARM arch, there
> is no real way

>
> for switching priorities, buffering AND keep devices powered/running.
> When you use the network, the USB part gets ignored, almost shut off,
> and
>
> the other way around. ARM is more about streams, unlike interrupt
> things where "devices" keep being powered and given priority.
>
>
> So network IO might shut your disk off..  and then back on..   a lot. 
> an SSD uses between 1.5W-2.5W I believe, which in PI terms is a lot. 
> An SD card
>
> on the other hand just uses a tiny fraction of that and it can handle
> that,  like your phone and your camera, iPod etc etc
>
> >> SD card (the video/photo ones can handle a lot more writes than
> >> standard ones) or I use NFS
> >>
> >> when I need larger data sets).
> >>
> >>
> >> (I run a seismograph on a PI, it does data collection, and 24/7
> >> sends data to a database
> >>
> >> every 1-2 seconds and never had issues.)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> On 1/9/20 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> Greetings all;
> >>>
> >>> Back in the middle of May 2019, I ordered, from newegg.com, three
> >>> 240GB SSD's and 3 rosewill usb-3.1 to sata adapter cables so I
> >>> could use them as std drives on my pi's.
> >>>
> >>> All of the rosewell adapters have now died. Called newegg, got run
> >>> around, hit tigerdirect and had 4 startech's at about 5 bucks more
> >>> ordered in less that 5 minutes.  We'll see how they work.
> >>>
> >>> So right now newegg and rosewill are bad kharma to me.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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