On Friday 19 June 2020 13:05:35 Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Friday 19 June 2020 12:58:06 Chris Albertson wrote:
> > I few more things about Marlin 2.0
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> > You likey will not be able to turn on all the features at the same
> > time because it will not fit into memory.   You can determin this on
> > your Linux system.  Simply download from Github and do a compile in
> > the Arduino IDE and see the size of the image.   No need to connect
> > any hardware to do this.  Just run the compiler.
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> > THis new Marlin 2.0 suports 32-bit controler cardsbased on ARM. 
> > These cards have dramatically more memory than Marlin can use.  So
> > you can enable "everything" like automatic bed leveling, SD card
> > reading, Touch screen and power failure recovery.  Aneat feature to
> > have a filament sensor to stop prints if there is no filament (the
> > sensor is just a microswitch.) With an 8-bit AVR chip you have to
> > pick and choose features
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> > Theother way to add better features to the printer is OctoPrint.
> > It runs on Linux and adds a web based interface to the printer with
> > drag and drop printing.    Also it has very good status
> > checking including a webcam interface so you can look.
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> That sounds interesting, I'll see if I can find it.  Thanks.
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I did, $125 for the full kit.  I'll have to see if I last long enough to 
use it.

> > Go to the Marlin Github page and clone the repository.  Then sign up
> > for change notifications.   If using Marlin you REALLY need to be
> > using Git so you have a localhistory of you experiments and edits.
> > and then when the master on github changes you can merge with local
> > edits.
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> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:35 AM Chris Albertson
> > <albertson.ch...@gmail.com>
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> > wrote:
> > > You can't connect directly to a PC.  You physically wire an
> > > Arduino "Uno" to the controller board, Then install programmer
> > > software in the Arduino, in effect turning the Arduino into a
> > > programmer. Then the Arduino is connected via USB to a PC.    The
> > > PC can run any OS.
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> > > Then what you load onto the controller board is NOT the new Marlin
> > > firmware but a "boot loader".   A boot loader is what is inside
> > > every Arduino and is what makes them an "Arduino and not just a
> > > dumb AVR chip.    Using an Arduino to install a bootloader is a
> > > common thing and is not special to the Ender3 printer.
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> > > OK, now that you have and Ender with a bootloader you can use any
> > > PC, Linux, Mac or whatever to load "sketches" into the Arduino
> > > board you now have in your printer.
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> > > Why is there no boot loader in your printer?    I don't know but
> > > one guess is they wanted to use the memory for something else. 
> > > Boot loader take up a few hunderd bytes and on these tiny 8-bit
> > > chips EVERY byte matters.
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> > > On Linux CNC to modify a configuration you edit an INI file or a
> > > HAL file and re-launch the software.  In Marlin you must edit the
> > > C++ code, re-compile and re-flash the chip.   Many times you need
> > > to disable features to make the code fit.
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> > > If you are going to swap firmware, you might first verify you know
> > > how to re-install the factory frmware, just incase you find you
> > > can't fit Marlin 2.0 into the controller's memory or if you make a
> > > mistake with the editor and introduce a bug.     In any case, you
> > > need an Arduino to use as a programmer.
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> > > The Arduino IDE is identical under windows, Mac or Linux. Get that
> > > and play with it and see if you can do simple exercises like make
> > > an LED blink with different patterns BEFORE trying to change the
> > > firmware.
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> > > If you have to buy an Arduino, the cheap eBay clones are just as
> > > good. Arduino is "Open Source" so the clones are made from
> > > published designes and really do work identically.  Buy two of
> > > them soyou can test out the new Marlin 2.0 on a $6 Arduino before
> > > you commit to loading it to the printer.
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> > > Then there are peopleusing LinuxCNC to drive 3D printers.  Seems
> > > silly to use a PC and a Mesa card when a $6 Aruduino can do the
> > > same job.
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> > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 7:28 AM Gene Heskett
> > > <ghesk...@shentel.net>
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> > >> On Friday 19 June 2020 10:10:16 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >> > I can see bed, nozzle tmps, as they heat from a locally
> > >> > launched render of yet another 5x5x5, but not the filename or
> > >> > anything else the printer might be doing.
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> > >> > Am I supposed to see it all?
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> > >> > Thanks, but puzzled. I'll let it finish the 5x5x5 so I can
> > >> > check dimensions since I can't stop it from this machine. I
> > >> > have it useing enough string now so the 5x5x5 is probably fat.
> > >> >
> > >> > It finds the printer but I haven't actually added it to the
> > >> > list, maybe it takes that to do it all? I can't abort this
> > >> > locally started print from here.
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > >>
> > >> And I just found a limitation that pisses me off, there is better
> > >> firmware, Marlin 2.0, for it, but it only installs from a winders
> > >> box over spi via a presumably very short cable from some sort of
> > >> an spi adapter.  Has anyone made that work from Linux?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > >> --
> > >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > >>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > >> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
> > >> respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
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> > > Chris Albertson
> > > Redondo Beach, California
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> Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
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