Yes I already turned them down.

Currently running max velocity at 8m/min and 750mm/sec2 I think.

Which is way slower than it used to run.



On Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 5:50 AM N <nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There are limits in trajectory planner adjustable in .ini file
> DEFAULT_ACCELERATION= and MAX_ACCELERATION= you tried them?
>
> > Hi again,
> > Indeed it is pretty hard to use spindle load if is doesn't change thru
> > the corner. I suspect it does on smaller machines but that is not a
> > generalized solution.
> > Just for experimental purposes it might be interesting to decrease the
> > velocity thru a corner see if it helps. Lacking the adding another row
> > to the matrix should control jerk but the may not be the whole solution
> > when dealing with a change in direction. So much to learn so little time
> > (and energy).
> > I suspect the 'big boys' do some pretty fancy adaptation to get good
> > smoothing thru the corners. Of course it is all propitiatory and those
> > patents take a long time to run out. Silvia McFarland (sp?) in her
> > masters thesis (Uni BC) used sin accel rather than trapezoidal. Might
> > help. I think traj control get much more critical as velocities get
> > really radical. Some of the new Brothers with 30 tapers absolutely
> > scream. When the machinist describes stepping back from the machine when
> > the tool moves toward him then is must be really impressive.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 9/21/20 4:55 PM, andrew beck wrote:
> > > hey dave
> > >
> > > I hear you.  I might get good at coding myself soon..  but would love
> to
> > > solve the problem.
> > >
> > > I don't think the spindle load could really help much though.
> > >
> > > I am machining plastic and aluminium and the spindle load doesn't
> > > noticeably change in corners.  I more need a limit on the initial
> > > acceleration for a split second I suppose
> > >
> > > or go the full way and have something that analyzes the G code path and
> > > calculates the best speed and path for the machine
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 11:35 AM dave engvall <dengv...@charter.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> HI Andrew,
> > >> Just because I have ideas does not imply I can implement them. ;-)
> > >> However, I believe there is a velocity pin that might be used to slow
> > >> down in corners. Since the spindle loads up going thru corners it may
> be
> > >> possible to monitor spindle load and back off velocity thru the corner
> > >> which should make milling a bit smoother. Adding jerk control
> involves ,
> > >> as you know, adding another order to motion. (see first sentence). ;-)
> > >> A lot of bright people are involved in linuxcnc but they all have
> their
> > >> own pet projects. Just the way it goes.
> > >> Hang in there, your heart is in the right place.
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> On 9/20/20 8:19 PM, andrew beck wrote:
> > >>> Hey guys
> > >>>
> > >>> just a few thoughts here.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have a high speed cnc machining center (cnc mill)
> > >>>
> > >>> it has 16mm pitch ballscrews and weighs 6ton
> > >>>
> > >>> linuxcnc is awesome and does a great job controlling it.  I make
> plastic
> > >>> injection molds and lots of 3d machining all the time.  plus all the
> > >> little
> > >>> jobs that a cnc is great for.
> > >>>
> > >>> I think the only thing lacking from linuxcnc for my use is some sort
> of
> > >>> jerk control for corners.  there may already be something around that
> > >>> solves the issue though without jerk control.  so what happens is
> when
> > >> the
> > >>> machine changes direction the whole machine vibrates and jumps
> around.
> > >> its
> > >>> quite bad.  enough that I may rubber mount the electrical box lol.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have accelerations of 750 (i think it is mm/sec2)
> > >>>
> > >>> and max rapids of 8m/min
> > >>>
> > >>> I would love to turn those up to like 25m/min rapid and 2000mm/sec2
> > >>> accelerations
> > >>>
> > >>> has any one tried any form of jerk control yet on linuxcnc?  or
> wants to
> > >>> have a play and code it.  I have 3 6 ton cnc machines that will all
> use
> > >>> linuxcnc so very keen to solve this jerk control issue.
> > >>>
> > >>> regards
> > >>>
> > >>> Andrew
>
>
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