I really don't know if this is the right forum for this question but in working 
with the mill over the last few months every once in a while the DC Brushed 
Servo Y axis makes this horrible noise like a stepper motor at the harmonic 
instability.  Usually I've just cycled power on the servo and then everything 
is fine again.
 
Today it wouldn't go away.  I added a bunch of oil onto the lead screw and it 
seemed to suppress it a bit. 
 
The back story is this.  I bought two Brushed DC Servos 10 years ago and built 
up 4 of the HP_UHU kits.  The US Digital encoders were crap and I lost position 
by a little bit on each move.  I changed to Henrik Olsson's PIC awesome based 
replacement module for the UHU controller and replaced the US Digital with CUI 
encoders.  Noise problem gone.  No missing pulses.  Repeatable operation.
 
One Servo got hotter than the other though.  Some resistance and current 
measurement and I discovered that although the servos were supposed to be the 
same they weren't.  At least not internally.  By this time they were more than 
8 years old so no chance of replacement.  I put the hotter motor on the Y axis 
which has to move the X table and X Table Pivot assembly and tuned it for 
smooth operation.
 
Start-up when cold appears to make the noise show up more easily.   I think 
it's just a servo tuning thing.  I'm still running ACME screws and bronze nuts. 
 Conversion to ball screws is a year or so away.
 
So the question is: if there is a sort of resonance noise at around 30 IPM it 
could be a loose or worn acme nut since extra oil seemed to make it less.  But 
is a tuning parameter I could 'tweak' to prevent this?  Here are the parameters 
I can adjust.  This was from a file in the DC Servo folder.  It may not be how 
they are set at the moment but I'm wondering what parameter might make a slight 
difference for this sort of oscillation.
 
Suggestions?
Thanks
John Dammeyer
 
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(P)-Kp: 3000 (3000)
(I)-Ki: 25 (25)
(D)-Kd: 25000 (25000)
(T)-Ti: 1
(V)-V.ff: 0
(A)-A.ff: 2000
(X)-Multiplier: 1
(L)-Servo Rate: 1500Hz
(E)-Error limit: 150
(C)-Max PWM: 740
(F)-Error scale: 0
(O)-Output Offset: 0
(Y)-Encoder filter: 78kHz
(J)-AD Region: 2
(K)-AD Scale: 256
(B)-Integrator Limit: 450
(W)-Fault input filter: 1
(S)-Save settings
   -Peak error (abs): 15
 
 
 
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