John haha yep I'll not do that.

I'm thinking I'll use a 1mm cutter anyway if the sensors are good enough
for that

On Mon, 28 Mar 2022, 08:23 John Dammeyer, <jo...@autoartisans.com> wrote:

> Just don't do what I did which is design the plate for a 3mm cutter and
> then start the LCNC G-code with a 4mm cutter.
> John
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: March-27-22 11:31 AM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder
> >
> > Forgot to include a link.  You can buy the bare sensor but also you can
> buy
> > them on PCBs with connectors attached and ready to go.
> > amazon.com/Measuring-Optocoupler-Interrupter
> > <https://www.amazon.com/Measuring-Optocoupler-Interrupter-Detection-
> >
> Arduino%EF%BC%885pcs%EF%BC%89/dp/B08977QFK5/ref=sr_1_17?keywords=c+optical+sensor&qid=1648405019&sr=8-17>
> >
> > Best to use a thin aluminum plate to make the interrupter disk.   Make
> the
> > slots 50% duty cycle,    You need three sensors for quadrature with
> index.
> >  The above sensor should directly interface to Measa or a parallel port
> or
> > some microcontroler.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 10:02 AM Chris Albertson <
> albertson.ch...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > THis goes to 10K RPM?   that is 167 revolutions per second.  400 slots
> > > means 70 KHz signal.
> > >
> > > Can you design an inductive sensor that does 70KHz but is also
> sensitive
> > > enough for near zero RPM?   Optical sensors can work up to 1MHz with no
> > > problem as they don't have any inductanve.    You can buy a "C" space
> > > sensor for a few dollars
> > >
> > > In either case, optical of inductive, you want a 50% "slot" where
> there is
> > > as much metal left as cut away  Then the "edges" of the square wave
> are the
> > > same in either direction.     The 50% duty cycle in effect doubles the
> > > sensor resolution.
> > >
> > > Why?  Think about the signal when the direction changes.     You have
> two
> > > sensors in quadrature and lets say one is being blocked and one is
> not,  I
> > > think you want the turnaround to take as long for each sensor.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 2:22 AM Andy Pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > On 27 Mar 2022, at 08:09, andrew beck <andrewbeck0...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > And is bigger dia better for higher resolution?
> > >>
> > >> Probably not, as it will perhaps have more scope to oscillate at
> 10,000
> > >> rpm.
> > >>
> > >> Don�t neglect the purely mechanical design of this fast-spinning part.
> > >>
> > >> Have you considered optical sensors rather than inductive?
> > >>
> > >> What will be counting the pulses?
> > >>
> > >> LinuxCNC can lathe-thread with one sensor.
> > >> But rigid-tapping is different as it needs to accurately detect the
> > >> reversal point. So you need three channels for index and full
> quadrature.
> > >>
> > >> Work out what error you can accept in the reversal point detection
> (as a
> > >> fraction of thread pitch) and you can get a feel for how many slots
> you
> > >> need.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > > Chris Albertson
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