Presumably your machine is different to mine..
I have a BT30 spindle and it had broken washers when I got the machine.

I was very relieved to simply loosen/remove two locking nuts at the top of
the drawbar and the complete stack simply dropped out the bottom.


On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 at 18:04, dave engvall <dengv...@charter.net> wrote:

> Hi Todd and others;
> Indeed it is a horrible idea but I feel backed to the wall.
>
> I have T lugs but they are secured by M6 shcs which is no where close to
> as strong as the normal retention stud. However, I plan to use the
> machine at full rpm with AlCrN coated end mill,
> coolant and keep the loading low.
> I don't have much to lose. My chances of living more than 10 years more
> are not good and that assume health good enough to work in the shop.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 6/27/22 7:25 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote:
> > Gluing a spindle taper into a spindle sounds like a truly horribly
> idea.  (I'd be more worried about it letting go when you didn't want it to,
> than trying to get it out later if you did want to remove it, although that
> also may prove problematic.)
> >
> > The drive lugs are usually removable/replaceable.  Maybe you could make
> new drive lugs that also positively engage the tool holder to retain it.
> Something like a longer T shape that would capture the tool holder flange.
> (Personally I'd do every thing I could to fix the spindle properly though.)
> >
> > Todd Zuercher
> > P. Graham Dunn Inc.
> > 630 Henry Street
> > Dalton, Ohio 44618
> > Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dave engvall <dengv...@charter.net>
> > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 9:57 AM
> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe.
> >
> > Update: The drive lugs get in the way of a safety disk or ring or
> anything else. Epoxy looks more promising; just a semi-permanent solution.
> > Note: Epoxy can always be removed with heat or chlorinated solvents
> but...
> > Dave
> >
> > On 6/27/22 6:27 AM, dave engvall wrote:
> >> Back again;
> >> Since crawling in under the spindle is difficult for an old stiff guy
> >> I laid the iphone on the table and took a pic, rotated the spindle 45
> >> degrees and took another; nothing useful moved. However, there are
> >> large socket head cap screws around the perimeter of the spindle. It
> >> should be possible to make a safety cap that has a few thou clearance
> >> to limit axial movement. 'Maybe' I can jury rig something. Basically I
> >> have to see what kind of clearances I have. An actual thrust bearing
> >> seems like asking for trouble.
> >> Psychologically it would almost be easier to pick up the radiator cap
> >> and run a new(er) one in. Still that brings all sorts of problems of
> >> its own. Hard to win.
> >> Back to the drawing table. ;-)
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On 6/26/22 9:10 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 at 15:45, dave engvall <dengv...@charter.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> A couple of solutions present themselves but neither are ideal.
> >>>> Simply use the M6 shcs that hold the dogs in place to secure the
> CAT40.
> >>>> Balance and adequate strength/safety would seem to present problems.
> >>> Does the nose have any extra holes? There are 4 threaded holes with
> >>> no obvious function on my 30INT spindle and looking around the
> >>> internet I see threaded holes in some of the CAT40 spindles.
> >>> It seems that you could use those to hold in a custom ER40 (or
> >>> similar) adaptor.
> >>>
> >>> 4000 rpm probably isn't fast enough to need to worry too much about
> >>> balance.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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