> From: John Figie [mailto:zephyr9...@gmail.com]
> 
> John Dammyer said
> "  The tables found online suggest that torque for a 7/16-20 thread is in
> the range of 23 ft-lb or more if the material is harder.  So assuming the
> drawbar isn't the hardest steel in the world then 23 ft-lb is used to
> tighten the drawbar onto an R8 collet holding a 7/8" diameter tool."
> 
> Here is my experience as a hobby machinist.
> 
> Now I have a manual bridgeport with an R8 spindle and got to thinking about
> 23 ft-lbs. That does not seem like a lot to me, but I have a pretty short
> wrench - 9" long that I use to tighten the drawbar with. I usually make it
> pretty snug with the 9" wrench. Then I took a torque wrench and measured
> what I took to loosen the drawbar and I was just over 20 ft-lbs. I played
> around tightening and loosening with the torque wrench and without to get a
> feel for how tight I usually make the draw bar and I think it is between 20
> and 30 ft-lbs. I think drawbars are not mild steel so that seems like a
> reasonable torque. I have never broken my drawbar.
> 
> So my Bridgeport does not have the little set screw that keeps the collet
> from spinning in the spindle. It was missing when I got the machine and
> have never got around to putting one back in. Although not proper, I think
> it is quite common for this screw to go missing. Most often I use end mills
> that are 3/8" or smaller. I have used drills up to 1 1/16" in diameter but
> always in a pilot hole. I have used a 2" dia indexable end mill but again
> with light cuts for facing. And also a boring head - light cuts again.
> With all of this stuff to my knowledge I have never had a problem with tool
> pullout or tool slipping.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Figie
Hi John,
That matches my torque tests too.  Except I do not have a spindle lock on mine. 
 Instead I use a WUT under the draw bar nut.    A long time ago Rick Sparber 
wrote an article in Home Shop Machinist on creating a WUT  (Washer Nut).   

Tightening/Loosening the drawbar is now a two handed operation but I can 
tighten up to at least 20 ft-lb.  I also find that my V-Belt to the motor slips 
if I have the AC Servo holding position and I try and untwist.  The motor 
starts to turn and then the belts brake free.  So I'll guess that LCNC will 
default out due to the closed loop spindle control if a tool  (or belt) starts 
to slip.

John Dammeyer



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