also - you can't have spaces..   or it fails with no error.  But once you
know the little nuances - it is pretty cool!

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 11:21 AM Sam Sokolik <samco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> the comma certainly tripped me up..  This isn't my first or even most
> complicated ladder - but buy - it has been a few years.  Have to re-learn
> it all over.
>
> sam
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 11:05 AM Todd Zuercher <to...@pgrahamdunn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think I had tried using the & symbol, and wasn't able to make it work,
>> but it is possible I was missing the key "," in the phrase (it was a long
>> time ago.)
>>
>> Todd Zuercher
>> P. Graham Dunn Inc.
>> 630 Henry Street
>> Dalton, Ohio 44618
>> Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sam Sokolik <samco...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 11:55 AM
>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classic ladder compare blocks..
>>
>> [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe.
>>
>> In the manual - they say you can 'and' and 'or' and such..  You need a ,
>> then the operator..  But I think maybe the limit is 2..
>>
>>
>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flinuxcnc.org%2Fdocs%2Fstable%2Fhtml%2Fladder%2Fclassic-ladder.html%23_compare&amp;data=05%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7C257d76eef1444be9420808dad22aaaad%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C638053377946996653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=NtbqLQIRX68k8nj16AoAmkS0x4hS%2BKwHr8CjM6EIhhA%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    (, ) separate into groups example %IF1=2,&%IF2<5 in pseudo code
>>    translates to if %IF1 is equal to 2 and %IF2 is less than 5 then the
>>    comparison is true. Note the comma seperating the two groups of
>>    comparisions.
>>
>>
>> A broad google search didn't bring up anything..
>>
>> sam
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:04 AM Todd Zuercher <to...@pgrahamdunn.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Oh I misunderstood your question. Yes I think a single variable
>> > comparison block is limited to only a single comparison of a variable
>> > to one constant or another variable.  I am surprised that it worked
>> > with the last two compares combined into a single block.  So for your
>> > row of logic below I would have thought it would require 3 comparison
>> > blocks in a row on the same line.  One each for %IW0<%W0, and %IW0>0,
>> > and %IW0<7.  Are you certain your logic worked completely, and one or
>> > both of the last two were not ignored.
>> >
>> > Todd Zuercher
>> > P. Graham Dunn Inc.
>> > 630 Henry Street
>> > Dalton, Ohio 44618
>> > Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Sam Sokolik <samco...@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 8:57 PM
>> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
>> > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> > Subject: [Emc-users] Classic ladder compare blocks..
>> >
>> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe.
>> >
>> > It doesn't say anywhere in the linuxcnc manual for classic ladder -
>> > but is there a limit for the compare block to just 2 compares?
>> > ie..
>> >
>> > I had this in the compare
>> > %IW0<%W0,&%IW0>0,&IW0<7
>> > For the life of me the logic just wasn't working.
>> > Finally I put it in 2 separate compares..
>> > %IW0<%W0 in one..  followed by %IW0>0,&IW0<7
>> >
>> > This worked as expected..
>> >
>> > BTW - the old emco turret with no feedback should work pretty darn
>> > well with a little ladder logic..  Only 1 output.  (logic 0 runs the
>> turret into
>> > the pawl through a current limiting resistor..   logic 1 runs the turret
>> > clockwise to the next tool.)
>> >
>> >
>> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> > youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DJGGPob1iKj8&amp;data=05%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrah
>> > amdunn.com%7C257d76eef1444be9420808dad22aaaad%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c
>> > 3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C638053377947152901%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIj
>> > oiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C
>> > %7C%7C&amp;sdata=cif23wgzE%2FVAGPkRunpoNKJIEhXWuelmjvRBaNQKeaI%3D&amp;
>> > reserved=0
>> >
>> > The original Emco compact 5 CNC, when you would call a tool - say you
>> are
>> > at tool 1 and going to tool 3 - would stop at tool 2 and index.   (it
>> stops
>> > at every tool location between the one it was at and the one you
>> > called)
>> >
>> > I think this was probably convenience as you need 2 different time
>> > delays
>> > - the initial one to go to the next one..  (slightly longer than every
>> > pocket after the first..)  I am currently using 2.2 seconds for the
>> > first tool -
>> > 1.8 seconds for every tool after.
>> >
>> > kinda neat.
>> >
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