Hi all.....Alan we are going to keep this month's conversation open as we move into November's discussion that Tim and I will be hosting on RISK. More later. Renate
Renate Ferro and Tim Murray Empyre moderators On Oct 31, 2012 5:02 PM, "Cynthia Beth Rubin" <c...@cbrubin.net> wrote: > One big difference between New York and New Orleans is that as soon as the > buses started rolling yesterday the city made them fare-free until next > week. They want to make it easy for people to move if they need to. > > In New Orleans, as I remember, people caught by the storm could not move > around freely once the storm passed. In New York City, they can move > freely in every sense of the word. > > Cynthia > > On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Susan E Ryan wrote: > > > Yes: overwhelmed, no transportation, no where to go. That's what > happened in the 9th Ward, and that's > > why people couldn't get out of the Superdome. Plus, after the curfew, > now one was allowed to move around. > > > > It's all so familiar. Too familiar. It's just that it hit New York this > time, not New Orleans, so its impact is > > magnified as the victims are not so poor, so marginalized. > > Point is, everyone must think about disaster > > in our everyday lives now, when we make choices about where to live, > what to buy, what is our > > exit strategy and what is "plan B." > > > > Katrina survivor > > > > Susan > > > > > > On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Maria Damon wrote: > > > >> Yes, I was going to ask, Where to people evacuate *to*? > >> I think people stay in their homes not because of bravado but because > a) they feel overwhelmed by having to make plans, b) they feel safe in > their homes because they are identified with them and have filled them with > their identities and view them as a haven even in the face of empirical > evidence to the contrary (like kids who stay with their mothers' dead > bodies after a carnage because they feel safe being with their mothers) or > c) because they have noplace to go. > >> > >> On 10/31/12 8:21 AM, G.H. Hovagimyan wrote: > >>> The flooding and power outages are a bummer. > >>> I live in zone B which is the secondary evacuation zone. Zone A is one > block from me. > >>> The subways are flooded and they are beginning to pump them out. > >>> Last year we had a hurricane hit New York at the same time. It's odd > because the year > >>> before that we were sent emergency evacuation plans for our > neighborhood in case of hurricanes. > >>> The hard part is all the people who must evacuate. This also happened > during 9/11 and the hurricane last year. > >>> Without power the high-rise apartment building don't have water. So if > you want to flush our bath you must carry water up the stairs. > >>> And of course theres no elevator, no refrigeration for food etc.. But > this is the fourth blackout since 9/11. > >>> New Yorker have no choice but to cope. > >>> I have a house in the mountains of Pennsylvania. I split my time > between New York and PA. We were up there when the storm hit. > >>> We also have a backup propane generator because we tend to get hit > with high winds that known out power up here. > >>> I always thought of this place as a refuge and it appears to be > becoming more so. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Maria Damon wrote: > >>> > >>>> wow~ chicago! > >>>> > >>>> On 10/30/12 8:03 PM, Lichty, Patrick wrote: > >>>>> In Chicago, we're having 40 MPH winds and 20 foot waves out near > Lakeshore Drive (LSD) > >>>>> > >>>>> Patrick Lichty > >>>>> Assistant Professor, Interactive Arts & Media > >>>>> Columbia College Chicago > >>>>> 916/1000 S. Wabash Ave #104 > >>>>> Chicago, IL USA 60605 > >>>>> "Some distractions demand constant practice." > >>>>> ________________________________________ > >>>>> From: empyre-boun...@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au [ > empyre-boun...@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Jonathan Marshall [ > jonathan.marsh...@uts.edu.au] > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:54 PM > >>>>> To: soft_skinned_space > >>>>> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Hurricane Sandy > >>>>> > >>>>> I was amazed to hear from someone in Michegan who said they were > experiencing 40mph winds, so the effects in NY must be staggering. The news > this morning was full of pictures of the sea moving inland, and the kind of > heavy debris blowing around that Alan was talking about yesterday. > >>>>> > >>>>> hoping its moving out now..... > >>>>> > >>>>> jon > >>>>> > >>>>> ________________________________________ > >>>>> From: empyre-boun...@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au [ > empyre-boun...@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Alan Sondheim [ > sondh...@panix.com] > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 10:15 AM > >>>>> To: soft_skinned_space > >>>>> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Hurricane Sandy > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi, thanks Renate, we're ok, have been out numerous times in the > >>>>> hurricane. NYC and NJ and coastal Connecticut are epitomes of > suffering at > >>>>> the moment - a real mess here, no one was expecting this. But our > roof and > >>>>> our repairs held! 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