On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:38:46 -0800 (PST) "Ben Rockwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:

> 
> <quote who="Klaas Bosteels">
> > However, I'm not sure myself either, and I'd really like to know what
> > exactly is going to happen with all the other libs too.. Lately, it
> > seems to be more or less impossible to contribute code to the core
> > components because nobody really knows what we're heading for anymore..
> 
> I'm not sure about that.  EVAS is pretty well complete, except for this
> question of Etox/Estyle.
> 
> Ecore's re-write is the big thing right now.  At some point EWL will need
> to be moved Ecore's new API, but shouldn't be too much work.  Etox and
> Estyle both use Ecore but only for the test app, so not much there.  EWL
> is the only big thing.
> Ebits is doomed, of course.  Which means yet another big change for EWL on
> the lib side.  On the app side, this means that Etcher, E and possibly
> Ebony are all scrap.  I'm curious how much of the current apps will be
> salvagable.

the question is... do you WANT them to be? etcher will simply not work for the
new ebits stuff - that i know. i'm going to try a new tack on ebits since etcher
was designed to create them and they were aimed at doing window borders. but
they are used for so much more now i think we need to stand back and take a look
again. ebony should be fine - though i'm wondering if we shouldnt just combine
ebg and ebits and have them be the same - just maybe make a much SIMPLER tool
for making backgrounds so people can make them easily without using the BIG
sledgehammer that would be etcher. i think the future will be in different tools
that treat the file format differently towards a different aim - making it a lot
easier for a user to make a file for a certain purpose.

> That's the path I've seen us on for some time now anyway.  I think once
> Ecore is complete and we hopefully can turn a 1.0 on EVAS and Ecore (which
> admitadly could be held untill E is near completion and nothing needs to
> be added to either, but i doubt that) we'll be able to pick up the pace a
> bit more.  Between a stable Ecore and Evas you can get alot of work done
> without involving Ebits.  I really only feel sad for poor EWL and Eprog. 
> Eprog because the new API to Ecore makes Eprog much less needed (although
> I think that Ecore wouldn't be as simple as it is without Eprog, which I
> still love to use) and EWL because its so high on the dependancy chain
> that any changes downstream have a huge effect on EWL.
> That's whats in my E playbook, but we'll see if raster burns my copy soon. :)

yeah. i know :)

> benr.
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