On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:30:08AM +0100, Jérémy Zurcher wrote:
> nice !
> 
> so you did not chose to have the install commands themselves to use sudo ;)))

No, sounded a bit too crazy to me :) 

> 
> On Saturday 02 December 2017  00:10, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote :
> > Hello,
> > 
> > so it turned out that this is a ninja bug.
> > 
> > Ninja has some sort of recompactination if the number of entries in the
> > .ninja_log and .ninja_deps files are getting too big, then it will cut
> > off a few, write that into a temp file, and rename that temp file later
> > to .ninja_log or .ninja_deps, if you ran exactly this time ninja as root
> > it will place .ninja_log and .ninja_deps as root owned files in the
> > directory instead of maintaining the old gid / uid of the file.
> > 
> > tldr:
> > There is a bugfix:
> > https://github.com/ninja-build/ninja/pull/1362
> > 
> > Greetings,
> >    Marcel Hollerbach
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 08:57:20AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 20:13:48 +0000 Mike Blumenkrantz
> > > <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
> > > 
> > > > I'm on fedora with meson 0.42.1 and ninja 1.8.2
> > > 
> > > Can you try doing the "build as user, install as root/sudo" and hit the 
> > > issue
> > > and details exactly what files are owned by root at that point and what 
> > > file
> > > the problem is with and why the permission problem is there? I just can't 
> > > see
> > > the source of the issue in my build trees.
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:08 PM Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm on Arch and generally try to stay up to date so maybe they have 
> > > > > fixed
> > > > > it?
> > > > > Mike?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 15:55 Jérémy Zurcher <jer...@asynk.ch> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I can't reproduce that root owner ship issue right now.
> > > > > > I made the changes to my scripts on the 2017/08/17
> > > > > > at that time on my archlinux boxes ninja was 1.7.2 and meson was 
> > > > > > 0.41.2
> > > > > > since then ninja has been upgraded to 1.8.2, and meson to 0.42.1 
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > 0.43.0
> > > > > > maybe it has been fixed in one of them fixed now.
> > > > > > (but I won't dive into their respective repos to check that ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wednesday 22 November 2017  20:51, Carsten Haitzler wrote :
> > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:36:36 +0000 Andrew Williams <
> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > > said:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm glad that it is not affecting you. Jeyzu and I both seem to 
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > hit
> > > > > > > > this issue (and I guess zmike too as described earlier).
> > > > > > > > Some times after a "sudo ninja install" I can no longer "ninja" 
> > > > > > > > due
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > permissions issues with files that have become root owned.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is unfortunate but it would be good to get a solution that 
> > > > > > > > works
> > > > > > all the
> > > > > > > > time for everyone if possible.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I checked what files were root owned. I currently don't see a 
> > > > > > > reason
> > > > > why
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > should fail. Someone show me a reason where it does fail (a file
> > > > > written
> > > > > > to as
> > > > > > > root has to be overwritten as a user or it cannot be deleted as a
> > > > > user).
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > don't see it. perhaps its a bug in meson in an older version? or a
> > > > > newer
> > > > > > one?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Andy
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 10:17 Carsten Haitzler 
> > > > > > > > <ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:33:05 +0100 Jérémy Zurcher 
> > > > > > > > > <jer...@asynk.ch
> > > > > >
> > > > > > said:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I confirm, I had to add the above in my build script :
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > sudo -S chown $USER $BUILD_DIR/.ninja_deps 
> > > > > > > > > > $BUILD_DIR/.ninja_log
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  7:14PM ~/C/e/build ⎇ master > ls -al
> > > > > > > > > total 4.4M
> > > > > > > > > 4.0K drwxr-xr-x  9 raster raster 4.0K Nov 22 15:36 ./
> > > > > > > > > 4.0K drwxr-xr-x 10 raster raster 4.0K Nov 22 15:36 ../
> > > > > > > > > 1.6M -rw-r--r--  1 raster raster 1.6M Nov 22 15:36 .ninja_deps
> > > > > > > > >  64K -rw-r--r--  1 raster raster  61K Nov 22 15:36 .ninja_log
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > written not as root. (make ninja install was as root). ... ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 22 November 2017  08:18, Andrew Williams wrote 
> > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Compiling as root may be a bad thing but mike is right, 
> > > > > > > > > > > ninja
> > > > > > install
> > > > > > > > > hits
> > > > > > > > > > > log files and other - some times causing root ownership. 
> > > > > > > > > > > I have
> > > > > > seen it
> > > > > > > > > > > occasionally myself and have had to either delete the 
> > > > > > > > > > > build
> > > > > tree
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > chown
> > > > > > > > > > > it to myself.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps this is a bug we should be reporting but in the
> > > > > meantime
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > docs
> > > > > > > > > > > should cover it somehow.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Andy
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 00:19, Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > > > ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 16:37:09 +0000 Mike Blumenkrantz
> > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The wording is intentional. The meson build has a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > tendency
> > > > > > to touch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > build files during the install phase (which must be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > run as
> > > > > > root to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > install to
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > base system), meaning that failure to use sudo during
> > > > > general
> > > > > > > > > build will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > fail for subsequent builds anyway due to permissions 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > errors
> > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > > > attempting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to modify root-owned files.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > i have never had a permission error after a "sudo ninja
> > > > > > install" to
> > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > > > > > ninja as me to rebuild whatever changed. it's just the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > gmo
> > > > > > files (and
> > > > > > > > > > > > install
> > > > > > > > > > > > log which obviously is written as root) from gettext... 
> > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > they are
> > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > > > re-generated by root so ... root overwrites root files. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > delete
> > > > > > > > > > > > these
> > > > > > > > > > > > files because they are in a directory owned by you (the
> > > > > user).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > so where is the actual permission problem? a ninja && 
> > > > > > > > > > > > sudo
> > > > > > ninja
> > > > > > > > > install
> > > > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > succeed without permission problems (see above). you as 
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > user
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > delete
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > effected files too.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > but suggestion people compile as root is a bad idea.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ???
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 8:14 PM Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > > > > > > ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 15:04:48 +0000 Mike Blumenkrantz
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Issues had been found at an inconvenient time 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > during
> > > > > > review,
> > > > > > > > > so I
> > > > > > > > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch unmerged so that someone could either push 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > I was
> > > > > > > > > gone
> > > > > > > > > > > > or I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could push when I returned.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw you pushed now. so we know the status. This 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > clears up
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > build
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > system state. I guess I should ensure it's 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > documented. I
> > > > > > see
> > > > > > > > > README
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > changed but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > i am not sure it's correct as it's going to do a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > build as
> > > > > > > > > root... i'll
> > > > > > > > > > > > deal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with it. :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 6:56 PM Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > > > > > > > > > ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:05:06 +0000 Andrew 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Williams <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > said:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the autotool/Makefiles are still in place I
> > > > > fixed
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > build
> > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > users
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not yet using the E meson build.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i was assuming autotools was dead - mike did 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say he'd
> > > > > > push
> > > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > autotools
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removal branch "in a day or 2 if no issues"... 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > about 1-2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > back. i
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > didn't see it happen and didn't hear of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issues...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are there any? I'd consider merging his branch 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > remove
> > > > > > > > > autofoo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > point.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If meson has issues it should be tested and they
> > > > > > should be
> > > > > > > > > fixed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 at 03:19 Carsten Haitzler 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raster pushed a commit to branch master.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > http://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/commit/?id=f4d2d02ba0f15b7f36e7de61141ff88c145f5630
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commit 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f4d2d02ba0f15b7f36e7de61141ff88c145f5630
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Author: Carsten Haitzler (Rasterman) <
> > > > > > > > > ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date:   Fri Nov 17 12:17:42 2017 +0900
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >     music-control - install properly with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meson
> > > > > > build
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > icon
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >     @fix
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  ...-module-music_control.edj =>
> > > > > > > > > e-module-music-control.edj} |
> > > > > > > > > > > > Bin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  src/modules/music-control/meson.build
> > > > > > > > > > > >  |   2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  src/modules/music-control/module.desktop
> > > > > > > > > > > > |   2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  3 files changed, 1 insertion(+), 3 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deletions(-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git
> > > > > > > > > > > > a/src/modules/music-control/e-module-music_control.edj
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > b/src/modules/music-control/e-module-music-control.edj
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > similarity index 100%
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rename from
> > > > > > > > > > > > src/modules/music-control/e-module-music_control.edj
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rename to
> > > > > > > > > src/modules/music-control/e-module-music-control.edj
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git
> > > > > a/src/modules/music-control/meson.build
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b/src/modules/music-control/meson.build
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > index 996b4196f..a84f5ea8e 100644
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- a/src/modules/music-control/meson.build
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +++ b/src/modules/music-control/meson.build
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @@ -18,5 +18,3 @@ src +=
> > > > > custom_target('gen-dbus',
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                       command: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [eldbus_codegen,
> > > > > > '@INPUT@
> > > > > > > > > ',
> > > > > > > > > > > > '-O',
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > '@OUTDIR@
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > '],
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                       output : created_file
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                      )
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -no_icon = true
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git
> > > > > > a/src/modules/music-control/module.desktop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b/src/modules/music-control/module.desktop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > index 99a2d9143..2e12677e3 100644
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a/src/modules/music-control/module.desktop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +++ 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b/src/modules/music-control/module.desktop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @@ -27,5 +27,5 @@ Comment[nl]=Beheers uw 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > muziek
> > > > > op
> > > > > > uw
> > > > > > > > > plank
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Comment[ru]=Модуль для управления
> > > > > воспроизведением
> > > > > > > > > музыки
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Comment[sr]=Управљајте музиком са полице
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Comment[tr]=Müziğinizi rafta kontrol edin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Icon=e-module-music_control
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +Icon=e-module-music-control
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  X-Enlightenment-ModuleType=utils
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