On 2-Aug-08, at 9:41 PM, Blake Barnett wrote: > On Aug 1, 2008, at 10:53 PM, dan sinclair wrote: >> >> It all comes down to when you're doing the 2.0 release. If you do a >> 2.0 release in a few months it looks like we just rushed a 1.0 out >> the >> door to say we had a 1.0. Major releases should last a few _years_. >> If >> we're seriously considering ripping out Embryo in a few _months_ >> that's a pretty good sign it isn't ready to be released yet. >> >> If we know we're going to rip out Embryo and we push out Edje with >> Embryo scripting just to remove it in the next release it isn't going >> to make people happy. They'll have to port all their themes to the >> new >> scripting language. >> >> We're better to wait until we have a foundation we want to work from >> to get there. >> > > Sorry, please take a reality check here. E17 has been in development > for nearly 10 years. The libraries have been fairly stable feature- > wise for ages. Bite the bullet! Release it. Don't rip out embryo, > add a CLR-like thing or something down the road if another language is > absolutely necessary (which I think is really unlikely). The > development life-cycle of this project is non-existent, how do you > know what's necessary without a broad user base demanding it? It's > good enough! The EFL has been since Edje was written and Eet took > over for Edb. >
Sure, the EFL has been around for a while. That also implies people have been using it for a while and possibly found issues with it. Themers have already stepped up and said they've had issues with Embryo. > Developers are horrible at making these decisions. Maybe the folks at > one of the commercial companies using E would be willing to donate the > time of an actual product manager or something to help here. As > mentioned before a release manager is crucial, someone who can make > mandates and have them followed. Um, they can certainly try to set release schedules but unless that company starts paying a bunch of EFL developers to do the code and get it integrated they don't really mean anything. dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel