On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 21:19 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> ok.
> 
> first - i know there will be unhappiness and disagreements. but i've been
> thinking and it's time to stop the status-quo here. some people will be pissed
> off, some will just be mildly unhappy, some not care, some be happy and some
> overjoyed. i ask to leave flamethrowers at the door.
> 
> since this has been argued back and forth before and everyone has said their
> piece... it's nothing new.
> 
> 1. we have had cvs for a long time - something in the region of a decade of
> using cvs... we already have an svn server - and i' have brought it up to
> working order: http://svn.enlightenment.org ... it was originally installed as
> a dependency for trac - and has been lurking, unused.
> 
> i have added full dev access (there is a devs dir in svn - same devs copied
> from cvs, with same ssh keys and thus same access as same usernames). all
> existing devs have access. anonsvn is also working. it also sends mails to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] on commits with diffs. 
> 
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-svn
> 
> to subscribe etc.
> 
> so this is up. it's ready to use - let's use it. using svn instead of cvs is
> childs play. i won't go into it. why not git? compromise and git is very
> different. all this needs now is:
> 
> a. suspend of cvs activity.
> b. import of existing cvs tree(s) and maybe a re-org in the process, but KEEP
> HSITORY. i intend to remove the e17 dir and everything inside of it, flatten
> out to:
> e17/apps/ -> apps/
> e17/docs/ -> docs/
> e17/libs/ -> libs/
> e17/proto/ -> proto/
> e17/test/ -> test/
> 
> we already have:
> devs/ -> devs/
> 
> and i want to put in other cvs modules:
> misc/ -> misc/
> eterm/ -> old/eterm/
> web/www -> www/
> e16/ -> old/e16/
> e_modules/ -> apps/e_modules
> 
> that's an initial import of our existing cvs modules/trees. from there on it's
> all svn. things can be moved and so on around. (and svn supports rename/mv).
> 
> c. continue development from there.
> 
> i hope to get this done in the next few weeks (in august).
> 
> and
> 
> 2. trac (bugzilla alternative). this integrates with svn - ticket numbers in
> log commits will have links back to their tickets in trac. it even allows wiki
> formatting in svn logs. it's simpler than bugzilla and imho easier to use, but
> has enough to work with. it support multiple sub-projects (already several in
> trac) and milestones and releases. it does the job. i don't want to import
> existing bugzilla bug items... so keep bugzilla for the old stuff, but start
> using trac for new feature requests, bug reports etc. i know i intend to
> anyway. it's just more usable (imho). it's integration with trac's wiki and 
> svn
> are great. it's overall a good tool. trac is at:
> 
> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e
> 
> again. this won't be popular with everyone - but i think it's for the best.
> we've got too many dangling "things to do" and things put off - so these are 2
> steps of many to get things organised. trac is up and ready now, so simply 
> once
> svn is moved. start using it.
> 

woohoo. finally. it was rather absurd to keep both bugzilla and trac
around. 


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