First i apologize for this mail as i wrote on m'y phone.

On Friday, June 10, 2011, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
<barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Atton Jonathan 
> <jonathan.at...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I am not a expert, maybe I have wrong ..
>>
>>
>>    - installing dbus on windows seems to be hard and a lot of dbus daemon
>>    doesn't work on windows. Consequently dbus is a bit useless on windows
>>
>>
> Do you have concrete data about it? AFAIK KDE maintains it and they even
> pushed for the new "systray" replacement using DBus instead of X11 messages
> because of that. This looks like FUD on your side.

Well, it's just a fact. Vincent tried multiple to receive help from
the dbus community and never managed to find a solution to make it
work on Windows.

>>    - some simple software/environnement does not have X ... and dbus.
>>
>> I think azy is very simple to install because it have very few (none
>> ?) dependencies outside EFL.
>>
>
> Again, another FUD. DBus is simple, very simple. It doesn't even depend on
> EFL, it's even lighter on dependencies. It's broadly used, packaged and
> supported. It's not related to X11, it's not tied to Glib, it's not stuck
> with Linux.
>
> People like to hate dbus without actual technical background to do so and
> that makes me sad. Being part of systemd project, which also happen to use
> DBus, but at a much lower level component, I also read people complaining
> about it without proper knowledge of their reasons... it's a bad thing.

There is actually a few case where it would be better to use ecore-con
and eet when you already run thé efl. First when you don't have
enougth space for the 100kb of dbus. Second when you are in a
distributed environment where multiple device are accessing the same
storage. With azy you can have one daemon on the nas that does the job
for every one. This are actual use case of real life example.
Certainly not common, but sometime dbus can't answer to some scenario.

> Let's keep the NIH syndrome out of EFL, we managed to do well for a while,
> but things are changing recently... what we'll end like? Another GNOME? :-D
>
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