On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:56:03 -0400 Youness Alaoui > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said: > > > Because I bumped into the problem myself so of course I'll try to debug > it, > > and I didn't do it because you told me to. As for the fix, did you have a > > i can't order you to do anything - but you need to read what i wrote. as a > summary, i said - help out and do things, instead of telling others what > to do. > if this had been done since the last major review of the todo list in > march we'd be there already. you can tell others what to do all you like. > they > don't have to listen to a single word, just the same as you don't have to > do > anything either when i say "help out". > for sure, I was referring to "it wasn't part of the todo, it was part of something I needed for myself". > > i'm using the release as a stick or a carrot to beat or bait people into > helping out. i can't fire you or offer you a bonus or money, so those > "normal" > sticks and carrots are not able to be used, so i use a different one. i'm > trying to use your own motivation for release. i wish your motivation would > make you rise to the challenge rather than just have a "release or bust" > view. > > open source works at a nuts and bolts level because people do things. > projects > start and move forward because someone does the hard yards. almost every > open > source project started life as a one-man project and it was that one man > that > got it up and running and to the point others might pitch in and scratch > their > itches or help even do things that are needed. it then became a team effort > with no hard way to control the people working on it. projects offer > carrots > in the following ways: 1. name attached to project for bragging rights, 2. > the > ability to influence, control etc. something. 3. the satisfaction of a "job > well done" in the end (seeing what u slaved on going gold), 4. if u are > lucky > the project may create a way to generate income from it for yourself. the > sticks available are: 1. shaming people into doing things (guilt trips > etc.), > 2. ejection from privileges (like commit access, banning from irc, removal > from > mailing lists etc.). that's about it. > > i'm trying to use both a stick and a carrot. i'm trying to get you to > accept > some of the blame for a bad e17 release if you are the one pushing for it, > as > well as then getting some credit if it's good. right now you are pushing > for > what i believe is a slightly premature action. > Yes, most OSS projects start that way or end up with someone leading the project, making the big decisions, mostly because others respect his skills/decisions rather than because he was elected. The way I see it, people will only work on what they want, what motivates them, and it's usually what they personally need. They will sometimes help out, when asked, on something they don't use/care for, it depends on the motivation. The motivation can come from either "I want the project to succeed" or "this looks like an interesting challenge". For example, I doubt people like doing tech support or triage in bugzilla, but they do it for the sake of the project, they feel it's their responsability. As for the sticks, I usually consider it to be "svn blame" :) > > > look? I'm not sure it's done properly, the 'needed' var seems a bit > > overkill to do the check (didn't have time figure it out properly). > Also, I > > was wondering if there wouldn't be a better solution to do if no gadget > is > > resizable. > > yes i looked. that was the first thing i did. along with counting it as > your first commit to e17according to logs. actually its "right" in that the > logic is right - i was only testing when i had 1 gadget or more being > autoscrollable - thus resizable. i didnt remember about "zero gadgets > resizable" and thus maybe getting that loop. my bad there. i was making > taskbar > usable. i'm running it myself right now even though i really despise > having it > on my screen to make sure it at least "works for me" :) > I switched to itask to test it, so I guess I'll go back to taskbar now since I belive it's the one that will get elected as being the stable one. Yes, the logic is right, but the code is not clean enough in my opinion, there must be a better way to handle that case. (also, other than that usecase, you forgot to initialize the variable :p) > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Carsten Haitzler > > <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:59:57 -0200 Iván Briano (Sachiel) < > > > sachi...@gmail.com> > > > said: > > > > > > > 2011/10/31 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>: > > > > > On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:27:25 -0400 Youness Alaoui > > > > > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said: > > > > > > > > > > is it just me... or are you actually helping out? :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shhh. Less talking, more doing. > > > > > > hehehehe > > > > > > > >> The fix should be in SVN now, r64588, try it now and see if that > gets > > > it > > > > >> fixed. > > > > >> > > > > >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Youness Alaoui < > > > > >> kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Hey, forget what I just said, I've just had the same bug as you > > > > >> > described, I just updated and it seems to be a new bug in the > latest > > > > >> > SVN. I've figured out what causes it, I'll write a bugfix and > > > commit it > > > > >> > soon. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Youness Alaoui < > > > > >> > kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> >> I don't have that issue, I noticed some slow E sometimes, maybe > > > taking > > > > >> >> 10 or 20% of CPU (and I have 8 virtual desktops and about 5 to > 10 > > > > >> >> windows in each)... cedric said the issue of E being slow for > me > > > was > > > > >> >> caused by my intel GPU.. I don't know about the CPU usage.. I > was > > > using > > > > >> >> taskbar module, now I switched to itask. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Philippe Reynes > > > > >> >> <trem...@yahoo.fr>wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> Hi all, > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> I've got a problem when I use itask or taskbar or engage > > > > >> >>> and run severals task. After something like 6 or 8 tasks > > > > >> >>> started the process enlightment use 100% of the cpu and > > > > >> >>> the desktop is almost frozen. Task seems to continue, > > > > >> >>> but it can't do anything (change windows, stop a task, ....). > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> I use mageia, and I've tried with revision 64519 and 64579. > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> Someone else has got the same problem ? > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> Regards, > > > > >> >>> trem > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > >> >>> Get your Android app more play: Bring it to the BlackBerry > > > PlayBook > > > > >> >>> in minutes. BlackBerry App World™ now supports > Android™ > > > Apps > > > > >> >>> for the BlackBerry® PlayBook™. 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