On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:40:52 +0100 (CET)
> Vincent Torri <vto...@univ-evry.fr> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:25:28 +0900
>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> while making connman work and improve is good... the edbus connman api has
>>>> been quite heavily broken now.
>>>>
>>>> this is now a blocker for efl 1.1 and we can't release until resolved.
>>>> here is what has happened:
>>>>
>>>> e_connman_service_apn_get() removed
>>>> e_connman_service_apn_set() removed
>>>> e_connman_service_ethernet_netmask_get() removed
>>>> e_connman_service_mnc_get() removed
>>>> e_connman_service_mode_get() removed
>>>> e_connman_service_security_get() api/abi break in parameters passed
>>>> e_connman_service_setup_required_get() removed
>>>>
>>>> we can't release with all these breaks. we are the ones providing an
>>>> advertised stable api to talk to connman. if connman itself breaks api, it
>>>> is our job to do either:
>>>>
>>>> 1. keep existing api's working and provide compatibility code inside edbus
>>>> connman to handle the new connman dbus protocol using the old api's
>>>>
>>>> OR
>>>>
>>>> 2. bump major .so version of edbus (specifically connman) AND place the
>>>> headers in a new folder so both old and new can be installed side-by-side
>>>> AND provide a new pc file with a -2 version.
>>>>
>>>> #2 is pretty much out of the question because econnman is tightly tied to
>>>> the rest of edbus and its version etc. and so would become an ugly
>>>> exception within the tree.
>>>>
>>>> so we need to retain compatibility so #1 is the only choice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I have actually talked with demarchi a bit, and I think we (and probably
>>> others) are in agreement that efl dbus stuff in general is pretty terrible.
>>> the base e_dbus library was written poorly wrt an actual api, and it's not
>>> much easier than just using regular dbus api (it's actually more difficult
>>> since you have to constantly reference the actual dbus api as well). This
>>> is a long-standing issue which I guess nobody noticed before efl 1.0 since
>>> not many people used or cared about the dbus stuff back then, but at this
>>> rate we are going to be stuck with The World's Worst DBus Integration (tm).
>>>
>>> We should probably focus some efforts on rewriting/upgrading it, and then
>>> bump the .so version and do a 2.0 release for just e_dbus.
>>
>> better writing an ebus lib like raster told me, not using dbus but our own
>> implementation. It seems (i'm not an expert, Gustavo told me that iirc)
>> that using dbus means translating back and forth messages which is
>> useless. Also, using eet would be better.
>>
>> Vincent
>>
> Yes, this is what I meant.

well, in that case, that would  not be an e_bus 2.0, but another library.

Vincent

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