> 
> On 12/25/11 11:49, Leif Middelschulte wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> sorry for this late reply, but am kept busy with rl.
>> Find comments in their respective context.

Hi Leif, no problem, a busy time of the year. My comments are below as well.

>> 2011/12/24 mh<[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Leif Middelschulte wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2011/12/23 mh<[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> Salute:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm having the same issue using two different distros on the same
>>>>>>>> hardware (two drives).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When I'm running Arch, I'm running xorg-server 1.11.3-1 , using
>>>>>>>> xf86-video-ati 6.14.3-1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Debian, sid, I have xserver-xorg-core 1.11.2.902-1, using
>>>>>>>> xserver-xorg-video-radeon 6.14.3-2
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd like you to start e via gdb (compile e with debugging symbols, see
>>>>>>> our wiki). Then break on _e_randr_crtc_info_set and step through that
>>>>>>> function until bad things (crash) happens.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Will do and let you know what I find here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok, I installed gdb, downloaded the latest 66482 from svn. Followed the 
>>>>> wiki
>>>>> and rebuilt the EFLs after export CFLAG=-g. Now I'm stuck. From the wiki 
>>>>> it
>>>>> seems that I should start e, then when it crashes start gdb and break on
>>>>> _e_randr_crtc_info_set. Not sure how to do that. Help appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 23, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> you're going to need to start an xserver raw without any "gdm".
>>>> 
>>>> Xorg -ac :1&
>>>> 
>>>> run that in a text console somewhere.
>>>> in another text console do:
>>>> 
>>>> export E_START=1
>>>> gdb enlightenment
>> Thanks to raster for helping out here :-)
>> But shouldn't this be
>> gdb enlightenment_start instead?
> 
> No. gdb enlightenment is correct.
> 
> dh
> 
> 
>>>> br _e_randr_crtc_info_set
>>>> r
>>>> 
>>>>> But, e never crashes though. What happens is that I'll run startx from 
>>>>> vt1,
>>>> 
>>>> it won't - you have to make it STOP when it hits that function with a
>>>> breakpoint (br). you have to set it up before e starts like above.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks! Attached are three sequential console shots, after hitting the 
>>> breakpoint three times . These seem to look exactly the messages I saw 
>>> earlier.
>> 
>> Sadly you did something wrong when trying to run e via gdb. Ecore_X
>> fails to initialize, which is way before e_randr initialization.

I'm not sure what went wrong, I followed raster's directions on how to do this, 
as you can see in the console 1 screenshot earlier. But I agree that Ecore_X is 
failing to initialize. This is what always seems to happen. I wonder if there 
was some other change, besides to randr stuff, between 66218 and 66220?  66219 
failed to compile here, I think it was e that failed, but it was a while ago 
when I tried that.

Andrea, have you had a chance to try any of this? It would be interesting to 
see if you have the same result, which I think you might from your original 
stderr output, which looked very similar to me.

I'm going to try recompiling 66218 with debug symbols and break on 
_e_randr_crtc_info_set just to see what I should expect it to do. It probably 
won't have any impact here, but a learning opportunity for me.

Still ready to try other ideas!


>>>>> and then in vt1 there are a series of messages like I included earlier in 
>>>>> the
>>>>> file called "start-results". The messages say "Enlightenment relocation
>>>>> handling", then many ESTART messages, then "Enlighenment relocation 
>>>>> handling"
>>>>> again, followed by the same ESTART messages, then "<Enlightenment Error>  
>>>>> A
>>>>> previous instance of Enlightenment is still active on this screen. 
>>>>> Aborting
>>>>> startup." And then it repeats this process over and over until there's a
>>>>> final error and X shuts down.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So there doesn't seem to be a PID of enlightenment to run gdb on. I guess.
>>>>> I've never really run gdb before.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any suggestions/hints would be appreciated, I'm willing to try and help 
>>>>> track
>>>>> down the problem with this damn ATI hardware.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> mike
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 23, 2011, at 3:52 AM, Andrea Suisani wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> sorry for not being able to join
>>>>>>>>> the irc debug session last evening...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> though it seems we have have narrowed
>>>>>>>>> the problem down to a peculiar comibination
>>>>>>>>> of HW (ATI HD 5770/5750), e17 ver,
>>>>>>>>> xorg version and x org drivere version.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> just trying get a more clear picture
>>>>>>>>> I'm running X.Org X Server 1.10.4
>>>>>>>>> with fglrx used as video driver (defined
>>>>>>>>> in xorg.conf) installed using
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> apt-get install fglrx-updates
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> on an ubuntu box ver 11.10, that's
>>>>>>>>> the output of uname -a:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Linux suino 3.0.0-14-server #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 21 20:49:05 UTC 
>>>>>>>>> 2011
>>>>>>>>> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mike what's your xorg version and
>>>>>>>>> which driver are you using for your
>>>>>>>>> 5770?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm going to try to configure my Xorg
>>>>>>>>> dropping the binary only driver and using
>>>>>>>>> instead the one provided by:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> xserver-xorg-video-radeon
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> i.e.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'll report back
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Andrea
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 12/22/2011 08:49 PM, mh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Leif,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Following up on our irc session today: I
>>>>>>>>>> deleted /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/conf_randr and restarted e. Still
>>>>>>>>>> had the black screen with gkrellm.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Decided to try something else: I took  the 5770 video card out of the
>>>>>>>>>> box and tried the onboard video, which is a Radeon HD 4200. Restarted
>>>>>>>>>> e, and the display worked properly. Recompiled e to rev 66466, and it
>>>>>>>>>> worked fine. Shutdown, the reinstalled the Radeon HD 5770 based video
>>>>>>>>>> card and restarted, back to a black display with gkrellm still 
>>>>>>>>>> working.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So, from there I went back to the vt and recompiled e from v. 66218 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> restarted e. Display and system worked fine. So that's where I'm at
>>>>>>>>>> right now.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> mike
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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