(FYI: for those who didn't read from IRC, when Carsten realized I meant to transform exquisite into a library+tools, and not add a new library to the set, he agreed to it).
So I've done it, just finished, but I have a couple of questions : - what should I use for creating an object? exquisite_object_add, or exquisite_object_new ? I think _add makes more sense and follows with the edje API. - What version should I give it ? Should I keep it to 1.0.0 (or 1.0.99 to be more exact), or bump it to match the core efl libs versions (1.1.99)? - Do you have any documentation written for exquisite that I could reuse? Especially with regards to the format to follow for creating themes for it? - Why is the tag <1> for success and <0> for failure in the edc, why not <success> <failure> ? Would make it more logical, and I can use an enum for the status without hardcoding the values of the enum. - There seems to be a bug in the default theme, where the last line of text appears cropped after you add a text, I just tried with ./run-demo.sh and part of the last text is cropped after adding one line, then a bigger part after adding another line, then the last lines don't even show up. I tracked it to the shift_text embryo script in the edj, which does y = y - 8; however, the font size is not fixed to 8 pixels height, I changed it to y - 13 and it worked. A better solution must be used to make sure the text always shows independently of your default font size or whatever might affect it. Thanks, KaKaRoTo On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote: > On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:07:38 -0500 Youness Alaoui > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said: > > well it's more because it really has very little additional beyond a > progressbar and it functions for the same purpose - it just can have a > large > "fill my window" style. :) > > > Humm... it may go as a widget in elementary, although it seems more like > a > > megawidget than a simple generic widget, so I'm not sure its place is > > inside elementary. But you know best what should go in there. > > I however do not use elementary for the ps3 (because it hasn't been fully > > ported yet) so I prefer to stay with pure edje. And since exquisite is > > already written.. it's not much trouble to expose its functions into a > > header. So if you don't need/want it in elementary yourself, then don't > > bother since I probably won't be using it anyways. > > Thanks > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com > >wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:46:22 -0500 Youness Alaoui > > > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said: > > > > > > hmm well if mainloop is alive... making an elementary widget would be > the > > > way > > > to go... :) call it the splash widget - u can fill a window with it, > just > > > put > > > it on the left/bottom half of your screen/window or whatever. :) it's > > > really > > > more of a progressbar PLUS a few more text fields that pb doesnt > have... in > > > fact u can do all of it with progressbars and setting text elements in > the > > > progressbar if we added another 1. you can do the end anim with signal > > > emits - > > > in fact u'd want the callback when done and an api for this... > > > > > > i'd actually suggest adding some more features to progressbar as above > and > > > adding this as a style for it. only thing then is the text log scroll - > > > should > > > this be in progressbar or not - do you want/need it? > > > > > > > Yes, I've read the code, I know how small and easy it is, however, if > > > > there's a library for it, then apps could reuse the same .edc from > other > > > > apps, it would give a sort of 'standard' way of doing this kind of > splash > > > > screens, with a standard set of features, and a set of themes for it > that > > > > people can reuse.. and obviously, if someone wants it a bit > different, > > > > they can always just do their own edc instead. > > > > I just saw exquisite (release announcement on planet E) and thought > it > > > was > > > > cool, wanted to look at the API then realized it was an app, and I > > > thought > > > > it would be better as a lib. > > > > As for uses, I do have a use for it, there are many tools for the PS3 > > > that > > > > take a while and do many things but have no output on the screen and > I > > > > thought they could benefit from that, like the messages "dumping ram, > > > > patching kernel, flashing NAND, formatting flash, etc.." as well as > > > having > > > > a progress bar.. Telling someone (who has no idea what the EFL even > is) > > > to > > > > write an EDC and set up his canvas and send signals, etc.. just for a > > > > progress bar or for printing a message on screen is a big turn off. > > > Also, I > > > > think games may benefit from it, it's not always about boot time, > but it > > > > would be for loading game levels for example, you often see a > "Loading" > > > > screen in games, and this could be used for example. > > > > And for my immediate use, I have a tool that unzips largs packages > into > > > the > > > > PS3 HDD and I'd like to use it as a progress bar for when I unzip > files, > > > it > > > > could be used for the progress bar as well as for listing the files > being > > > > unpacked. And yeah, the app is alive and running the mainloop in > those > > > use > > > > cases, and unzipping 1GB takes time.... I was going to implement a > > > progress > > > > bar+messages system in my code, and write the edc and write a spec > for > > > > people to retheme it, etc... but since I've seen exquisite, I don't > think > > > > it's worth it to rewrite the same thing when I could just reuse > existing > > > > code. > > > > Any suggestions on how you'd like me to proceed ? or should I just > go and > > > > do it (I'll probably do it tomorrow). > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > KaKaRoTo > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Carsten Haitzler < > ras...@rasterman.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:13:39 -0500 Youness Alaoui > > > > > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said: > > > > > > > > > > ummm... if an app wants to do this its as easy as loading an edje > obj > > > and > > > > > sending signals/setting text and dragables. that's a VERY thin > library > > > > > there. > > > > > you want this for app splashes while apps start up? are the apps > that > > > start > > > > > actually alive and running the mainloop for a long period before > they > > > are > > > > > usable? > > > > > > > > > > > This looks pretty good! > > > > > > I've been thinking that this could be used for applications as > well, > > > not > > > > > > just for the init scripts. So I'm thinking of modifying exquisite > > > into a > > > > > > libexquisite (which the exquisite tool itself would use). It's > > > basically > > > > > > just about having a way of creating an exquisite (edje) object > and > > > > > > translating those IPC commands into API functions. I think it > could > > > be > > > > > used > > > > > > by apps for doing progress bars (with a sort of 'standard' edje > > > specs) > > > > > and > > > > > > generic splash screens (for games loading levels and stuff like > > > that). > > > > > > What do you think ? Any suggestions before I start ? > > > > > > > > > > > > KaKaRoTo > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:37 AM, P Purkayastha <ppu...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, February 10, 2012 4:40:33 PM UTC+8, The Rasterman > > > Carsten > > > > > > > Haitzler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:04:00 -0800 (PST) P Purkayastha < > > > > > ppu...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there some guide on how to set this up? I know that > > > Exquisite > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > existed for many years but I could never set it up due to > the > > > lack > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > > noobie-friendly guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > read README? look at the run-demo.sh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as such you only want to be integrating this into a boot if > you > > > know > > > > > your > > > > > > > > boot > > > > > > > > stuff (systemd/systvinit/whatever) and you need to put the > status > > > > > writes > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > your startup scripts or modify systemd to do it for you. > (write > > > to > > > > > fifo > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > scoket directly). other than that u need to hack up all your > init > > > > > setup > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > start exquisite before everything else (and make sure efl > libs > > > are > > > > > > > > available to > > > > > > > > it at that time) and then send status and done messages from > your > > > > > init > > > > > > > > scripts > > > > > > > > or whatever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah yeah. Now I remember why I didn't pursue it further. 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