On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:37:11 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> > So again: Either force-disable/force-enable a feature or allow > > configure switches for it, automagic just causes more confusion and > > more work for packagers and users. > > more for packagers. less for users. users have their stuff mostly > "just work" in terms of build. they may or may not have certain > features and these are checked for later at runtime anyway, but we > are making more core features not even able to be disabled in the efl > tree anyway - so these wont need runtime checks as much but the rest > is still automagic unless u enable the strict stuff as above - if you > are a packager then go do that. :) Automatic deps are what you are talking about and all that David Seikel is after. Automagic deps is what Thomas Sachau is talking about. The difference is the former has a configure option the latter has not or the option is broken. This distinction of automatic vs automagic might be Gentoo specific, not sure others use it the same way or bother to make this distinction in the first place. Automatic deps, ie enable if dep is installed and the configure option is not given, is all fine and dandy and the packager is to blame if he misses the configure option. Automagic deps are harder to spot and need to be treated as hard dependencies in source based distros unless the packager patchs the build to add the missing configure option. Binary distros can indeed get away without it being a hard dep. Either way, automagic deps means 99% of the work for upstream, ie, properly ifdef the code and detect the dep and zero gain for a source based distros as Gentoo. About lld and friends, well, they make for great qa tools and and are extensively used in Gentoo as well, but are no substitute to declaring proper deps in the package spec (ebuild). It makes sense to autorecord missing ones for rpms, guess it helps greatly to reduce broken 3rd party rpms. On the topic of removing configure options, there are indeed silly ones and I welcome your plans to simply things. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
