On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Christophe Dumez > <christophe.du...@intel.com> wrote: >>> There are lots of concerns from EFL developers (me included) on how >>> the development of WebKit-EFL is being done. The API of webkit2 even >>> not being fully supported by EFL, as contrary to webkit1. There's only >>> 1 developer that seemed to care and started to send patches to >>> elm-web, so webkit2 can be fully supported. >>> >>> No surprise there was feedback asking for clarifications and why a >>> simpler api couldn't be used. Now you come and say WebKit1 is being >>> deprecated. -1000 here, until the day webkit2 gets fully supported in >>> EFL and you start to interact more with EFL devs. >> >> The proposed date for dropping WK1 EFL from upstream is 8 month away. I >> think this >> gives a reasonable amount of time for people currently relying on WK1 EFL to >> port their code to WK2 EFL. >> If anything, this should motivate people to make sure all the components >> work with WK2 EFL. > > 8 months is clearly to short from now is clearly to short. 8 months > after WK2 EFL API is stabilized and "released" (I mean by that, that > any API/ABI break of it will be forbidden). Then you can consider > dropping WK1 EFL. Announcing that you will drop WK1 EFL when WK2 EFL > is not even stable, is not a proper move in my opinion. > > Upstream EFL does use WK1 EFL in the 1.7.x branch, that will be used > by E17 release later this year. This means that all distribution that > do want to package EFL with a stable release for E17 will be depending > on WK1 EFL. You can stop development, only do bugfixes, but removing > it is clearly not a smart move here. > >> About interaction with EFL developers, I don't think we have any problem >> answering questions related >> to WebKit EFL (via this mailing list or the IRC channel) or fix bugs filed >> upstream against WebKit EFL. > > Yes, you have. I am aware of the move to WK2 EFL since less than 3 > weeks. If some nice Samsung guy didn't try to help EFL upstream to > move away of WK1 EFL we wouldn't be even have any proper information > and code here. At this point, the WebKit EFL people need to get more > involved with EFL. It's not a matter of answering question, it's about > using the same tool and do that efficiently ! If we don't share > infromation more effectively, this kind of thread is going to repeat. > I strongly encourage every developer of WK EFL to join e-devel mailing > list and ping people there when there is important subject to bring in > (like new dependencies, feature request, ...). I am now subscribed to > this mailing list and will try to keep reading it, but that's not > enough. WK EFL team should get more engadged with EFL developer in > general.
As a related note: although Ecore provides curl/http, WebKit still uses the crap alien that is libsoup. Why not start the Webkit + EFL adding the missing bits to Ecore_Con and then using it natively in WebKit, instead of forcing glib-mainloop integration for nothing? > As a side note a fact, that I don't know more than half of the people > in this thread, means you are not really visible in EFL community. > That's bad also. We have an EFL dev day next week in Barcelona, I hope > to see and meet some of you guys there. > >>> On a side node, being a former contributor to webkit-efl, I shrugged >>> with recent webkit revisions in which we refuse do depend and use EFL >>> infra but we are now depending on several third-party non-released >>> libraries. No matter what jhbuild can do for devs we should be using >>> more of EFL, not less. >> >> I'm not sure what you're referring to. From what I've seen, we are relying >> more and more >> on EFL, not the opposite. > > If that's true, that's a bad move and evolution here. But that should > be part of another thread of discussion. > > Regards, > -- > Cedric BAIL > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics > Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -------------------------------------- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel