2012/11/14 Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:04:40 -0800 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <[email protected]> said:
>
> > Alternatively work to have such modules in tree.
>
> yup. if they come in tree, then we "take responsibility for it".
>
> > Since I've joined the project I saw (or helped) many modules to be
> included
> > in core. All it takes is little effort to make them good quality and fit
> a
> > purpose. tclock is stupid as clock does the same (I blame e17 for not
> > having digital clock since day0), places could be included with some
> effort.
>
> indeed. though imho places should really become a feature of efm rather
> than a
> module of its own (well feature of fileman module). e17 needs/wants some of
> these 3rd party modules - cpu and mem meters for example, but we just
> havent
> had the time to deal with it. :)
>

We discussed the inclusion of Places many times in the past and we never
found a deal
Places is in a good shape, I support it and (as far as I know) it doesn't
have issues.
I agree we should include it in the "official" modules, but I disagree to
"merge" it with efm,
the reason is simple: I don't want to force the user to use efm, the user
should be free
to use his preferred file manager and still be able to use Places.

That said, I will be happy to include Places in the e tree, as it is now,
not merged with efm.
can this be a solution?




>
> this dialog is there to cut down the workload in getting a release out.
> it's
> also there to remind the user that they are entering an "unsupported"
> universe.
>
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:52:44 -0600 Jeff Hoogland
> <[email protected]>
> > > said:
> > >
> > > > In the latest alpha there is a warning at startup about 3rd party
> > > modules -
> > > > is there a simple way to disable this message?
> > >
> > > no. i put it there very much intentionally. it's not going away.
> > >
> > > > If I allow it to pop up for Bodhi users I know it will freak out a
> number
> > > > of them (end users are a fairly skittish lot).
> > >
> > > this is part of doing QA. after week after week having people say
> things
> > > like
> > > "i get segvs!" then spending 10 mins back and forth finding its a
> > > out-of-e17
> > > tree module causing it (eg get them to unload engage and problem goes
> > > away),
> > > i'm tired of my time being wasted by this. we aren't releasing engage.
> we
> > > aren't releasing places, tclock or any of these. we are releasing e17.
> this
> > > is e's version of the kernels "tainted" message. as a gui app.. we
> stuff
> > > that
> > > message into the gui. perhaps you should simply not have any 3rd party
> > > modules
> > > loaded/enabled by default in any profile in bodhi as frankly... we will
> > > wipe
> > > our hands of them and the problems they cause. we don't have the
> manpower
> > > to
> > > spend on that.
> > >
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