On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 08:18:42 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> said:
> After ten minutes of looking and me pointing out how to see it, a > friend of mine was entirely unable to see the list of authors in the > "About Enlightenment" dialog using the default theme. Black on dark > grey is barely visible. Can we make it a bit more visible please? > > In the end, she had to look at the web site to see the list of authors. 1. it wasnt meant to be "read". 2. you obviously havent seen any movies lately and seen the credits etc. 3. it was meant to be a subtle list of authors u barely notice until one day u go "oh wow.. that thing is an authors list!" when you finally notice it. it wasnt meant to be names in bright blinky lights. it was meant to be the way it is. 4. yes - its is mostly transparent black on grey. after having seen an abominable gammut on one of cedrics monitors, the lack of being able to see this text is most likely indicating a major problem with the quality of gammut response of your screen - take it as a hint that you need to either get a new screen that doesn't suck (and trust me new screen can suck just as much as old ones, so actually pay attention to quality and get some good sample images displaying on it before you buy it), or you do some adjusting of gammut: simply playing with contrast and brightness is a first good step - bring up a pure black to pure white gradient - draw it in gimp for example (horizontal gradient the width of the screen, or almost). you SHOULD be able to see "dark greys" all the way right up until the black pixel - and see light greys all the way up until white, if it stops early with black being a large band - or white also, then you have a response issue and maybe contrast/brightness can help. look at the screen until what you SEE is pure black - or pure white (pay close attention), and then use the color picker tool to check the pixel value at that point - if its not black - then the display pipeline is throwing away pixel values. it's a REALLY good idea to fix this. if contrast/brightness on the monitor can't manage to fix this, OR (as in cedrics case) they add ugly banding to the gradient because they use an 8bit LUT for correction (poor for good quality art), then you can try adjusting on the gfx card end - some gpu's provide gamma correction tables. often they are also 8bit, but sometimes better. xgamma or the nvidia settings tool can do this (don't know about ati). ALSO if you are using VGA as opposed to DVI or HDMI, then this can hurt a lot as analogue signal will drop quality and possibly lose signal fidelity at the ends of the spectrum. using DVI or HDMI is a much better call (tho beware, DVI can also transport analogue RGB too... tho it mostly transports both the digital and the analogue and screen should be choosing the digital). seriously. spend some time with your screen and some calibration. one of the reasons people rave about macs and OSX is that apple bother to calibrate their screens. they ensure that they all have the same gamma response so they same grey appears the same on every apple screen/product. in the pc/linux world this is rarely done and leads to the "it looks great to me" vs the "i can't even see it". then you fix it for the "i can't see it" people and then i go "but now its all ugly and washed out". you end up with never making everyone happy because people don't spend the time to even try make their screens display the same content. they often buy the cheapest screen in the store (with the biggest inch count) and then expect that all is perfect. it often is not. the reason its the cheapest screen is that the manufacturer has skimped and possibly either hasnt bothered coming up with a decent default calibration, or has poor quality panels that have low bit fidelity, bad response etc. etc. etc. next time you buy a screen - spend some time with test images. gradients where you KNOW you should see a grey, not a pure black or a pure white. for starters this will be a big help. spend time with the screen controls so at least u can figure out if its adjustable to make it "look right". -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
