On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote: > sure, but it sounds more like "pre-alpha" than beta at this point > considering the amount of rewrite occurring.
There is still no agreement about if we are going to change any of the existing API or not. It is still a discussion. And the change is going to impact mostly EFL internal than an application using EFL. > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz >> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I don't understand why we can't just remove all those from the public >> > headers. If we're still rewriting them so much that they need to be >> marked >> > as beta, they should not be released at all imo. >> >> Because we use it. That's the point. If you don't have the ability to >> mark some API as beta, you can't use some API and if you don't use >> them you don't know how good they are at the end. It also reduce the >> review of such API. So in the end you need a way to mark those API >> beta. >> >> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> As the time comes, we are trying to move to a time based release. But >> >> as the discussion on Eo does show, it takes time to reach a consensus >> >> on some API and make it difficult to move forward on a release. >> >> >> >> So I have introduced a macro EFL_BETA_API_SUPPORT that is used to >> >> disable API that we won't support for the next release, but still want >> >> to push forward. The people that want to use those API should be >> >> advised that they will have no ABI/API stability on such API and will >> >> need to enable it manually. I have added a m4 macro that will add it >> >> to the config.h at configure time. >> >> >> >> The first API that I have just marked as beta is Eo. All program that >> >> use are now using efl_beta.m4 (elementary, expedite, clouseau). The >> >> goal is offcourse to have the least amount of those API in beta, but >> >> that is I think the only sane way to move forward. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> -- >> >> Cedric BAIL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics >> >> Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics >> >> Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. >> >> Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! >> >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> >> >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics >> > Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics >> > Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. >> > Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! >> > >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> > _______________________________________________ >> > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Cedric BAIL >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics >> Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics >> Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. >> Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics > Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics > Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. > Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- Cedric BAIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. 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