On 01/10/13 18:31, Michael Blumenkrantz wrote: > Okay, I haven't read most of these replies since I've been busy benchmarking > the hell out of things, but I've had things semi-summarized for me by a > number of people. > > I think it's important to keep in mind that FOSS is probably the hardest type > of development to get into, and to remember that all of us titans of industry > here were once wee little developers scrabbling around the internet (or just > in the ocean, for the more elderly readers here) for bits of code. We all > made various mistakes, but we learned from them, and if we were lucky then we > even had a mentor to slap us around a bit if we got too far out of line. > > I am such a mentor. > > I think everyone's said their piece here, so let's all calm down, remember > that we're all really mad at Cedric for breaking window frames and other > things today, and send him hate mail. > > /thread > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:01:46 -0300 > Iván Briano <sachi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Good gracious, this is getting insane. >> >> I agree with Tom on this one (good gracious, I agree with Tom!). What >> your job is >> or where you work has nothing to do with the community. Your work is >> appreciated, >> but commit access is not required for you to do your job, and since we >> are not using >> SVN anymore, the argument of giving proper credit is moot too. >> >> There's several of us working at companies doing work with EFL and >> contributing back >> and we do have a history of giving access with too much freedom but we >> are trying to >> fix that and get to the point where if someone has write access to our >> code, it's because >> most of us know who that person is and we can trust not just in the >> quality of the work >> produced, but also that said person won't just vanish one day leaving a >> bunch of >> unmantained stuff that others will have to care for. So if you care >> about us being good >> mannered when it comes to human relations, you should also be good mannered >> when >> it comes to relations within the community. >> >> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: >>> On 01/10/13 15:55, Yossi Kantor wrote: >>>> Tom, >>>> >>>> Open source or not, there are normal human relations and you will comply >>>> to them (With me at least). >>>> (There are actually a lot of respectful ways you could have done the >>>> same thing it openly >>>> but its not my job to teach you how). >>> >>> No, I will not comply with your human relation guidelines. It makes more >>> sense to follow guidelines set by the community in which we are >>> participating, or the "world" (open source) we are communicating in. >>> >>>> I'm a software engeneer in a comercial organization. Like you. There is >>>> a job I do in relation >>>> and demands of this organization. You or anyone else not knowing me is >>>> really not my problem. >>> >>> Yes, but that does not matter at all in this context. No one cares about >>> your job, organization and status. All we care about is if you produce >>> good code, and if we can trust you with commit access. We don't know you >>> at all, so we obviously can't. >>> >>>> (I'm not a rock star(yet) ). >>> >>> Let's hope you will be. >>> >>>> "Trust measured in quantity? " - Seriously dude.... >>> >>> Well, no need to nit-pick, I obviously meant that trust is earned over >>> time, and not by the quality of random patches. Just wanted to align it >>> with your quality/quantity example. >>> >>> -- >>> Tom. >>>
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