2014-09-29 14:23 GMT+01:00 Chris Michael <devilho...@comcast.net>:

> On 09/29/2014 09:17 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:06:30 -0400 Chris Michael <devilho...@comcast.net>
> said:
> >
> >> On 09/29/2014 07:47 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:52:23 +0200 Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr>
> said:
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Carsten Haitzler <
> ras...@rasterman.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:44:32 +0200 Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr>
> said:
> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Lucas De Marchi
> >>>>>> <lucas.de.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Em 28/09/2014 08:46, "Graham Gower" <graham.go...@gmail.com>
> escreveu:
> >>>>>>>> I've attempted to build using the easy_efl.sh script and received
> the
> >>>>>>>> build error referenced in the subject (full build log follows
> >>>>>>>> message).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is there a particular version of udev that is required now, but
> hasn't
> >>>>>>>> been put in the autoconf goo? I have udev 182 on a linux distro
> >>>>>>>> without systemd.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From
> >>>>>>>
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/libudev/libudev.sym?id=946f1825751919a176cd0039002a514de0c9c70f
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> libudev 199
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Question as always how many distribution ship this library and how
> >>>>>> many don't. Should we make 199 mandatory or should we just disable
> the
> >>>>>> code that require 199 (I guess it is related to wayland).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> since systemd and udev merged... a lot seem to have stopped updating
> udev
> >>>>> at all and may b e on a multi-year-old udev (eg 2011). so our
> choices are
> >>>>> to force an upgrade or work on these distros, or we need a way to
> emulate
> >>>>> this udev call inside eeze iof udev is older. that means someone has
> to
> >>>>> do the emulation code work there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do we really need to ? We could just disable Wayland support if udev
> >>>> is to old, as I think that is the only think that rely on it. The
> >>>> question is more what about other system than Linux.
> >>>
> >>> that makes for a poor eeze api that may or may not work based on a
> hidden
> >>> udev version at compile time of eeze.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well, perhaps for the moment we can detect the udev version and just
> >> #ifdef the internal eeze code to skip that function call. Fixes the
> >> build problem while Not breaking code for people that have a sane udev
> >> version. Thoughts ??
> >
> > but downside is we have an eeze fn that now is broken for some and not
> > others... and then when some try wayland things mysteriously fail..
> we'll hit
> > this sooner or later in one form or another. best get it sorted now
> while fresh.
> >
>
> Ok. Makes sense :)
>
> So...what is the general "agreed" plan for sorting this ?? I've seen a
> couple of thoughts on this thread, but no clear plan/path. I don't mind
> doing the legwork if we all can agree on a path....
>

IMHO best approach would be to create an abstracted library that doesn't
access libudev or anything directly, but rather provides abstracted
controls for stuff like backlight, disks etc. - which could potentially be
integrated with any OS or backend, including udev, devd, etc.; after that,
deprecate Eeze. It would be the cleanest solution, but is also more of a
long term solution. So for the time being, just ifdef it out and keep a
ticket open for solution. If there's anything we do *not* need, it's stupid
thin wrappers.


>
> dh
>
>
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