On 10/08/16 22:30, Davide Andreoli wrote:
> 2016-08-10 16:35 GMT+02:00 Tom Hacohen <t...@osg.samsung.com>:
>
>> On 10/08/16 14:51, Davide Andreoli wrote:
>>> 2016-08-10 15:48 GMT+02:00 Tom Hacohen <t...@osg.samsung.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 10/08/16 14:45, Davide Andreoli wrote:
>>>>> 2016-08-10 15:22 GMT+02:00 Tom Hacohen <t...@osg.samsung.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/08/16 20:37, Davide Andreoli wrote:
>>>>>>> Starting from this commit:
>>>>>>> https://git.enlightenment.org/core/elementary.git/commit/?id=
>>>>>> 015db15c626b9b06116fcc8f7ec61bbae3c6cc30
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> combobox now inherit from Genlist and Multibuttonentry, this is
>> causing
>>>>>>> some name clashes, in particular
>>>>>>> I found the item_append() function to be present (and needed) in both
>>>>>>> parent class.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is an issue in bindings, where you use it like:
>>>>>>> cbox.item_append(...)
>>>>>>> what function do I need to call in this case? the one from genlist or
>>>> the
>>>>>>> one from multibuttonentry?
>>>>>>> do you want to add the item in the genlist or in the mbe?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TBH I also found the new combobox multi selection functionality quite
>>>>>>> broken atm, for example it's
>>>>>>> quite impossible to make the widget the right size, it always appear
>>>>>> super
>>>>>>> small, unless you perform
>>>>>>> hacks like the table+rect one, or use and edje layout (like is done
>> the
>>>>>>> elementary_test)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we don't a have a solution/explanation for the name clash I
>> suggest
>>>> to
>>>>>>> revert this commit for the
>>>>>>> 1.18 release and fix/discuss better in the next cycle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> davemds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My reply will be based on my basic checks and a few assumptions, if
>> you
>>>>>> think any of the assumptions are wrong, please correct me. But given
>> the
>>>>>> quick glance I took of the code, and our chat on IRC, I think I'm on
>> top
>>>>>> of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Eo API is not stable. This obviously includes eo functions like
>>>>>> eo_add, but also eo properties, like multiple inheritance. Combobox
>>>>>> inherits from box, and is extended (composite if I had to assume) by
>>>>>> genlist. This means that any genlist calls on combobox objects are
>>>>>> actually BETA are not "released". This means one of two things: if you
>>>>>> can use combobox without these calls, all is well. If you rely on
>> using
>>>>>> these calls, then combobox should be marked as beta too as it's not
>>>>>> useful without the Eo api. That is it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I can understand your point here, but the problem is that legacy users
>>>> can
>>>>> use this legacy functions:
>>>>> o = elm_combobox_add()
>>>>> elm_genlist_item_append(o)
>>>>> elm_multibuttonentry_item_append(o)
>>>>
>>>> I understand.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> those functions are not BETA, and people can use them. While you
>>>>> say they are (conceptually) BETA.
>>>>>
>>>>> Infact we already have bindings for the combobox in python-efl.
>>>>>
>>>>> To be more clear: the only way to actually use the combobox widget in
>>>>> any useful way is to use functions from other widgets (composited)
>>>>> And if composited is conceptually BETA then the full widget should be
>>>>> marked as BETA.
>>>>
>>>> That's what I said. So the widget should be marked as beta.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It's a bit too late for this, it was also in the 1.17 release (without
>> beta)
>>
>> Well, it's not a problem, because as I said, it's undefined behaviour
>> (the way it was used), and it shouldn't have been used that way. It
>> relied on unreleased API. Combobox itself is not an API break, just
>> certain usages. So we just released a useless widget in 1.17, I'm fine
>> with that. Doesn't matter. Read my previous mail for more info.
>>
>
> It probably doesn't matter for you but maybe does matter for all the people
> (like me) that have used the combo widget released in 1.17.
> Yes! it has been released, not under beta, with legacy functions, and
> without any note to not use it.
>
> So we have done a big mess and a HUGE error releasing this widget, and
> the fact that you don't admit this is quite disturbing.
>
> I have now deprecated the combobox widget in python-efl, with a
> BIG FAT WARNING to not use it anymore.
> https://build.enlightenment.org/job/base_pyefl_build/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build/sphinx/html/elementary/combobox.html
>
> I suggest that someone do the same for the C api/docs, and
> again I suggest to revert the multi_selection/Multibuttonentry ability.

I think you misunderstood my email. It's a big fuckup. It's bad that it 
happened. But what do you want us to do now? It was released in a 
non-working state and the recommended usage was beta but was never told. 
Seriously, what do you want us to do now? There's nothing to do... All 
I'm saying is that in the future we will be able to fix the clash 
because the Eo API can still be changed. That's it. So yes, it's not 
useful for bindings at the moment unfortunately.

--
Tom.


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