Hello. On 14/09/16 00:13, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > On 09/13/2016 05:58 PM, Stefan Schmidt wrote: >> I guess you would need to ask the Debian packagers to update or find new >> ones wanting to keep up with the work. To me the maintainers seem to be >> missing in action and so far everybody stepped up to replace them. Part >> of the problem is that interested folks might not be a Debian >> maintainers and would need a sponsor. I tried to arrange for this with a >> Debian Developer I knew but even for the sponsor its a lot work so it >> did not pan out. > > The current Debian maintainer has been missing, but supposedly returning > soon.
Soon as in this year? In the meantime, I've been maintaining updated Debian packaging > in the debian/sid branch of: > https://github.com/rvandegrift/efl > https://github.com/rvandegrift/e > > Soon, I hope we'll be able to get these into the archive. I have seen you mention this before and I wonder how realistic this hope is. Are you a Debian Developer or maintainer? Do you have a sponsor that would sponsor your non packager uploads? This all sounds hard, but over the last 3 years I have seen various approaches to make the situation better. None of it succeeded. >> If you compare this to other mainstream distros like OpenSUSE or Fedora >> which ship really up to date packages I can't really see why our code is >> not interesting for debian while it is for other distros. But given how >> long we have this situation I think we might have to face it that this >> will not change. > > Hypothesis: E17 on EFL 1.8 might be old, but it's reasonably stable and > useful. So end-users that do not follow EFL development might not > know/care about new features. Those that do probably build from source. You think these users do also not care about bug fixes and security fixes? You know many people that are using efl 1.8 and e17 and are happy that Debian does not update to newer versions? I find it hard to believe that keeping this versions comes from something else but missing interest or motivation to update the packages. I talk about Debian unstable here and not some years old release. (I have been using Debian SID myself for over 10 years and at that point packages have been updated when new versions came out) regards Stefan Schmidt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel