On 13/09/16 23:07, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> Hello.
>
> On 12/09/16 19:01, Cedric BAIL wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Stefan Schmidt <ste...@osg.samsung.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> On 10/09/16 01:29, Cedric BAIL wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I fully agree with Andrew. I have yet to review what still need to be
>>>> done regarding Efl new interface task, but I hope that 1.19 will be
>>>> our final call. We do now have time to cleanup example and check that
>>>> things look fine.
>>>
>>> Please correct me if I did not get you two correctly here.
>>>
>>> You both think we should release 1.19 only once the interface work is
>>> fully done? Be it in 3 months or in a year?
>>
>> I hope that we will be done by November.
>
>
> Hope dies last. :)
>
> More seriously. I have a hard time seeing that interfaces is fully done
> in November when we still argue promises (as a very basic part) again.
>

 From what I remember, we decided promises will not take a key part in 
this. We will not rely on promises at this point.

> The feedback I got so far is: make it a feature based release and only
> release it when interfaces as a showstopper bug is done.
>
> I have my doubts this will fly, but if nobody else thinks this idea will
> not work I stash my concerns and will see how I call help processing
> this release. Just never ask me when this release will happen or point
> out that distro or product schedules might need it done before XX :)
>
>>
>>> Our track record for doing feature based releases is not really
>>> promising to be honest. :)
>>
>> Ah ah ah. Well, to be honest, I have asked to get at least 2 releases
>> cycle for efl interface work. We tried to stretch it to make that
>> shorter, but that didn't fly. Now we are back to the original
>> schedule, let's see if it is a bit more accurate.
>>
>>> This would need at least a detailed list with tasks which need to be
>>> done before the release could happen. Plus a definition what done means
>>> in the context of the task.
>>
>> I will try to make later this week an email about what needs to still
>> be done for efl interface work.
>
> Looking forward to it. Maybe this gives some information we can base any
> planning on.
>
> regards
> Stefan Schmidt
>
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