On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 09:37:30 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:

> beber has said he plans to move to containers. that was a while ago
> he said that. so either we wait for beber or someone just takes over
> and tears down our setup and rebuilds it without him. tbh all the
> vm's run gentoo and this just makes that exceedingly painful as
> anything that needs installation needs compilation (even more fun
> upgrading a kernel in gentoo).

Wait what? Do you all need systems administration help? I am a Gentooer!

I have done Gentoo systems administration for a decade and a half. I
was a former Gentoo developer and foundation Trustee. All my systems
have always run Gentoo short of some devices, wifi routers, etc. Few
months back took over the Ansible portage module despite hating python.
Likely look to do more there someday. I run a pretty massive repo[1]
for a single person, including the most current stuff for E on Gentoo :)

I am literally making a kernel now for a new laptop, and have others to
update. Did a presentation on that for my LUG last year[2]. Though it
was not my first kernel just presentation name. I have always made my
own since ~2001. 

For all my Gentoo systems I create binaries on one server and push them
out to others; servers, laptop, desktop, etc. Could do images or other.
Someday may switch to containers but for now just sticking with VMs.

> if i were going to do this, i'd just want to reinstall the whole host
> with something i can set up easily and quickly (that is certainly not
> gentoo). to do this i have to get openvpn to work with osuosl
> properly to get a text console working to do a re-install anyway.

It can be quick if you have stuff pre-built etc. Though usually
requires a fair amount of experience with Gentoo.

> i actually suspect it's some paranoid switch beber has enabled. he's
> pretty paranoid about the servers and security etc. and maybe has
> done something unusual. our server setup is highly unusual in my
> experience... so i suspect it's this... what it is - i don't know,
> but i'd be a fan of "don't be so paranoid about security and get the
> damned thing to work stably". that served us pretty well for many
> years on e1/e2... i'm not advocating no security... just keep things
> as simple as necessary to work.

Usually if its something like that pax, grsec, etc there will be output
in kernel dmesg or logs. If its something security related taking
action. Could be some other bug or many things.

> The real core issue is that beber is solely in charge of our server
> setup and he doesn't have the time to fix it. I'm going to leave it
> to him,

I am available to help him out or in general, if needed. I should be
able to help in some capacity. If not with current problem with general
administration if needed.

> as the alternative is me just jumping in and doing it and
> that means a full system rebuild in a simpler way which is actually
> impossible for me to do any time except weekends assuming all the
> IPMI console stuff was working and I could boot a new OS installer
> and start again (after making a full system backup of everything that
> is there). It'd likely result in an e.org that is down for multiple
> weeks as I likely cant rebuild it in a single weekend. And this even
> assumes I can figure out how it's all put together... I don't know
> how network is set up and a lot more... how packets route to where
> they end up and so on...

Ideally it should be documented for others in case of something
happening to anyone, and for others to be able to reference etc. I have
done such in the past for paying clients. :)

Though in this case I would likely for reasons stated and so I do not
forget... Nothing worse than forgetting your own design due to lack of
notes or documentation....

1. https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/
2. http://www.jaxlug.net/index.php/2016/5/18

-- 
William L. Thomson Jr.

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