I use Fedora on all my work machines; I've always logged in normally using an enlightenment session from gdm (the default dm on Fedora).
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:45 AM William L. Thomson Jr. <wlt...@o-sinc.com> wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:19:00 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > > log into text console and fix. something we (the people doing this) > > are perfectly capable of the odd time this might happen. > > But what about other less capable people? Screw them? They are not good > enough to run E? > > > > i have no need or desire to change that... so i, like yoz and others > > just set things up to run what we always use... :) > > Yes, but I am talking about the process for other people. Developers > can easily customize things for their own needs. My concern is users. > > > no one said every > > user should go do this and write a systemd service/unit file and set > > up a user session login by hand. but we do. many of us do. it's an > > indicator that the functionality of a full login manager isn't as > > critical to us and thus we might prioritize other things ahead of it. > > What should users do? That is the question. What is the standard way > that users should start E? Most will rely on a display/login manager > for such functionality. > > It is easy to see this topic is not of concern to E developers thus > nothing exists that works beyond spawny/anna. > > I would think end user experience to be the main driving factor for all > things. Other critical things would be secondary. If you have no users, > then your glorious code and development efforts are moot. > > Lots of wonderful obscure tech that very few or no one uses. It is up > to E developers what they want E to be, niche or mainstream. Small user > base and community, or large. > > I do develop for me, in the hopes its useful for others. I do not > necessarily care if others use what I develop. Though I would hope > others would, and if they have needs/issues. I would look to address > and not put my own stuff beyond theirs. It depends if I want users or > not, and how I go about that process. > > Some communities have really turned their back. With the stance, that > only the developers matter. Their opinion is what matters since they > are doing the work. The opinions, needs, etc of the users is secondary. > It is a really good way to kill a community IMHO. > > IMHO the communities that do best cater to the needs of their users as > best they can. While maintaining their unique direction and development > goals. Its a fine difficult balance. > > -- > William L. Thomson Jr. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
