i'm using kiwiirc as irc client right now :) On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:18:56 +0200 jaquilina <jaquil...@eagleeyet.net> said: > >> Could we connect Web based irc chat like qwebirc that free noted uses to >> connectar to their network and have it by default connect to purchase >> channel? > > i mentioned kiwiirc ... we could embed it on our www page somehow: > > like: > http://rdf4j.org/support/irc-web-chat/ > > here is it: > https://kiwiirc.com/ > > i haven't looked into more detail. with some customizing we could have it be > pretty much like smooch with just a "join" button added at the start after > approving name. > >> Sent from Samsung tablet.-------- Original message --------From: Andrew >> Williams <a...@andywilliams.me> Date: 10/07/2017 06:40 (GMT+01:00) To: >> Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>, Enlightenment developer list >> <enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Notes from >> community discussion in Malta I think it would be reasonable to assume that I >> was not meaning force everyone to be awake all the time. Something that I >> have learned recently, however, is that there is a big difference between >> massages and communication (think similar to how data is not as meaningful as >> information) - that is what interests me. Rather than just creating a bigger >> room where more people can miss each other why not figure smarter ways to get >> the right folk connected - or connect new people with their answers directly. >> It does not have to mean sleep depravation! >> >> Andy >> >> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 at 00:39, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: >> >> > On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 18:32:23 +0000 Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me> >> > said: >> > >> > > With another way to get folk on IRC we don't necessarily improve the >> > > experience for folk looking for help - it's a mass of folk who may be afk >> > > or may not be able to answer the questions - a lot of the time we see >> > >> > we at least connect the people. you can't force people to be awake 24/7 or >> > to >> > answer things. you can smooth the entry barriers down as much as possible >> > in >> > the hope things improve. >> > >> > > people join, ask a question and leave some time later having "no waited >> > > long enough" for the right person to swing by. I'd be keen to see if >> > there >> > > are mechanisms for answering questions quicker or helping folk identify >> > how >> > > to get answers faster or more reliably... >> > >> > pay people fulltime to be alert 24/7 to reply? irc (and even slack) is for >> > the >> > impatient and for "instant response". that's it's nature. otherwise we have >> > used email for longer term stuff. and as was mentioned - forums are the www >> > equivalent. you still then have a barrier of making people register etc. >> > and >> > then if forms don't integrate with email as it stands we divide the >> > community >> > again... which is why i'd prefer a solution that keeps it together as much >> > as >> > possible to improve the chances that people actually interact. :) >> > >> > > Andy >> > > >> > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 at 10:25, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 22:06:16 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) >> > > > <ras...@rasterman.com> said: >> > > > >> > > > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 11:14:29 +0100 Al Poole <nets...@gmail.com> said: >> > > > > >> > > > > > I think you're right if you're only talking about developers. It >> > would >> > > > be >> > > > > > good to get users involved, i see there's quite a lot of people who >> > > > hang >> > > > > > out in #e on freenode. If they could be more engaged that might be >> > > > > > encouraging to them and let developers do dev.... >> > > > > >> > > > > the problem is we need and want developers to engage with users. >> > reddit >> > > > is a >> > > > > good example of a well done "forum". the real thing is a stand alone >> > > > forum >> > > > > fragments further. if we can tie it to email that'd be perfect. >> > > > > >> > > > > smooch is a good idea too. has technical issues and usability >> > problems, >> > > > but i >> > > > > think we could take the idea and improve it with better integration >> > to >> > > > irc >> > > > > e.g. use an irc bot on #e and the bot just provides a WWW window >> > into #e >> > > > for >> > > > > as long as the chat window in the browser is up. >> > > > >> > > > FYI: >> > > > >> > > > http://rdf4j.org/support/irc-web-chat/ >> > > > https://kiwiirc.com/ >> > > > >> > > > having that come up and just join #e (and nothing else) on our www >> > might >> > > > actually be the best.... :) maybe just provide a "select nick name >> > here" >> > > > box >> > > > with a "go chat" and have it randomly choose the default nick name in >> > js >> > > > on the >> > > > www page... :) glue #e to slack like we glued #edevelop with a bot. >> > IMHO >> > > > better >> > > > than smooch by far. >> > > > >> > > > > > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 7:27 AM, Pierre Couderc <pie...@couderc.eu> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 07/09/2017 06:30 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> with mailing list, phab and irc as the current way to ask >> > > > questions, >> > > > > > >> file bugs or talk about development, is there sufficiently >> > manpower >> > > > to >> > > > > > >> ask more questions in a forum ? >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> i don't think so. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> Vincent >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> +1 >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > > > > > ------------------ >> > > > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> > > > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> > > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" >> > -------------- >> > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" >> > -------------- >> > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > > > >> > > -- >> > > http://andywilliams.me >> > > http://ajwillia.ms >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- >> > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com >> > >> > -- >> http://andywilliams.me >> http://ajwillia.ms >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
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